What the hell is wrong with Boxrec?!!

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  1. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?r[rol...eight&r[country]=&r[stance]=&r[status]=&r_go=
    1-Joe Louis.
    2-Vitali Klitschko.
    3-Rocky Marciano.
    4-Wladimir Klitschko.
    5-Muhammad Ali.
    6-Gene Tunney.
    7-Lennox Lewis.
    8-Sonny Liston.
    9-Riddick Bowe.
    10-Tyson Fury.
    11-Joe Frazier.
    12-Larry Holmes.
    13-Floyd Patterson.
    14-Evander Holyfield.
    15-Jimmy Bivins.
    16-Ingemar Johansson.
    17-Mike Tyson.
    18-Jack Dempsey.
    19-Deontay Wilder.
    20-Alexander Povetkin.
    21-Jersey Joe Walcott.
    22-George Foreman.
    23-Anthony Joshua.
    24-Bob Pastor.
    25-Nikolai Valuev.
    While it feel pretty good to see They took the number 1 spot away from Wladimir, giving the justifiably ranked the #1 heavyweight of all time Muhammad Ali the number 5 spot is truly, downright despicable.
    And why the hell would you rank Mike Tyson #17 all time? Holyfield #14? Vitali Klitschko #2?!!!
    And i guess they still don't want Foreman anywhere near the top 10.....
    The list is so hilariously bad that I almost don’t want it to change due to the absurd entertainment value I might be denying people who don’t see it.
     
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Earlier they for example never had ranked Vitali above Wlad for example.
    Because: Vitali had been ranked by WBO and WBC for short time and later looks that he asked only WBC to rank him and he was under WBC while Wlad was under IBF, WBO, WBA, IBO etc orgs and with their belts.

    Also they earlier had high attention to title defenses and number of belts etc alike.
    Frazier below Liston?
    Okey, there might be some reasons why Vitali might be above Lewis and for damn serious reason btw, sorry, Lewis fans yelling there.

    While this: Valuev is ranked so highly and Wilder too? Btw for sure I rank Wilder below even this Valuev.


    Maybe programmer's mistake. They does use programm, as far as I had get, not manual insert with experts panel voting.
     
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  3. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    What the **** is this? How is number 25 ranked at all?
     
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  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why not?
    Valuev resume is better than yelling hometown belt milker Wilder resume and seriously better.
     
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  5. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like any program it's gonna be flawed. I assume it's gonna be to do with how the points are allocated.

    Based on the rankings it does seem a little arbitrary, but how the points are allocated would be the likely culprit here.
     
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  6. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    I know that. But there were better alphabet belt holders than him. Any theses rankings are a joke.
     
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  7. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Not tryin to turn this into a Vitali/Lewis who's greater ? thread, but share some of Those reasons that convince you Lennox should be ranked lower than klitschko...... if you may of course.
     
  8. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is it that their other division rankings make some sense but HW is always crazy and HWs get massive bonus points on their P4P list (which kind of defeats the purpose)?
     
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  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends from criteria.
    Main criteria why Lewis fans are ranking him higher than Vitali is fact that he won fight vs replacement for him in Vitali and instead of talked rematch picked opinion to retire.
    Next: fact that Lewis was undisputed.

    Cos I come mainly from KB circle not boxing initially, I do not gave a lot of s*********** about undefeated record or who had beat who there up.
    Lewis for me is not higher or lover than Vitali or Wlad but if there you attempt to hurt nerves with casual boxing fan arguments, this makes me laugh and at all, Lewis had retired cos he did not had rematch vs Vitali and you may die by insiting how much Lewis was better than Vitali for me he WAS NOT and NEWER WILL be better than Vitali.

    Wtf Lewis = so cool boxer he was, LOL.
     
  10. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    It's being updated almost on a daily basis. Calm down, as this is really hard to be settled, since the ranking is generated by a point system.
     
  11. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Take it from an old-school member such as myself. The algorithm used to establish the rankings doesn't include qualifiable data just a skewed point system.

    Meaning don't get your panties in a bunch, Al Bernstein isn't being interviewed to assist with creating an objective listing of top HW champs.
     
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  13. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I liked Wlad as number one, he’s a good although less popular pick, Vitali as #2 though is just flat insane.
     
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  14. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Alright, then no need for me to go further than that. Have a Nice day!
     
  15. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting, did you watch/follow boxing from the very beginning ? If not why do you think he is greateast of all time ? Just because people are pushing this narrative ?

    Maybe there was someone in 1882 who was better ? Just asking to make people think and not blindly repeat something that does not make sense
     
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