What titles do you rate and what ones do you regard as meaningless?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by colinthfc, Mar 29, 2010.


  1. colinthfc

    colinthfc Guest

    British Masters & International Masters are for small hall and Journeymen.

    Area titles - I rate highly, but they are so under utilised these days

    English - To me 1 step below Commonwealth

    Celtic - Not really caught on

    Commonwealth - Step below British

    British - Still a prestigous belt and get a Lonsdale belt for keeps means something

    European Union - Poor man's Euro belt, 1 step below Commonwealth

    European - Best belt below World

    WBC, WBA, WBO & IBF - All meaningful, unless tarnished by Interim, Duplicate (Golokin @160), Ordinary, In recess etc - All those with prefixes are bogus until the full belt is owned

    Intercontinental/International belts of the big 4 are about rankings rather than the belt

    IBO - OK as part of a unified belt, but meaningless solo
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    It's all about opposition.
     
  3. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Area Titles-are major part of small hall boxing and give fighters a sense of pride, Masters titles for me aren't really anything other then a main event title for small halls. Without Area titles shows fold and fighters lose interest.

    English Title- is a good progression title...sort of like a domestic youth title.

    Commonwealth- has been ruined by the standard of opponents but it's still an honor for any fighter to hold a belt which some of the great fighters we have had held. Of recent times it's been devalued by the mass of poor fighters been given shots.

    British-Greatest Title in the world and fighters have died fighting for that title. It means the world to each fighter who fights for it and it's produced some of the greatest fights we've ever seen. It's just a special title.

    Intercontinental Titles-Safety routes for promoters to guide there champion to a world title shot without facing a stern test.

    European
    -Gives you a big ranking with the world titles and it brings ££££ with it and it's a major stepping stone to world titles and again an honor for any fighter to be champion of there continent.

    World Titles-The Champion makes the title in this day an age. WBC will always be the special title imo.
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Dare I say it, but no titles are really worth all that much these days.

    Even the British and European rarely have the best respective fighters holding them..... plus more fighters get the chance to fight for them with people vacating.

    This ''let's wait until it's bigger'' bollocks is a big cause of this. Good quality domestic fights don't happen because promoters want to wait ''until both have titles'' - load of shite.

    I'd still say the proper route is....

    Area
    British
    Euro
    WBC/IBF

    The rest can go whistle, especially the Commonwealth and interalphabetty titles.
     
  5. barry big balls

    barry big balls You cant handle the truth Full Member

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    True story.......
     
  6. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Lineal.:deal
     
  7. lurcher

    lurcher Member Full Member

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    are we talking titles...........how about the
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  8. HitmanHatton

    HitmanHatton Boxing Addict Full Member

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    British Title is a bit over-rated IMO, its just a stepping stone, nothing more, nothing less.

    Fighters drop it like a hot potato once a European or World title fight is in sight.
     
  9. avidlemon

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    utter bollocks.
     
  10. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :verysad
     
  11. HitmanHatton

    HitmanHatton Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton
    Joe Calzaghe
    Lennox Lewis
    Clinton Woods
    Junior Witter
    Chris Eubank
    Nigel Benn

    Just a few of the BRITISH world champions from the last 20 years who dont have a BRITISH title for keeps.

    The only fighters who rate the British title are the fighters who arent good enough for European or World level.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    You certainly have a point.

    I don't think it's right that that's the case, however.

    I think Lewis has one outright, from when it used to be 3 rather than 4 title fights.... but you can add Hamed, Bruno and Khan to your list.
     
  13. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    i disagree very strongly with this often stated opinion that the WBC is better than the others. i know its just an opinion but after their disgraceful behaviour with RJJ and rocchigiani, Jose Suileman - utter dickhead, and that shambles the diamond belt bollocks. All the "world governing bodies" are equally ridiculous and have numerous controversies in their histories. none serve boxing suitably and have their own agendas always

    my favourites are the british belt - i have huge respect for a fighter who can win this outright, the Ring belt is also pretty prestigious - you can only get this if you beat The Man, or someone rightly ranked highly.
    i would have said european but after Mad Matt Hatton got to fight for the title... im not so sure
     
  14. HitmanHatton

    HitmanHatton Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't believe I forgot about them 2, also it looks like Frank Warrens Olympians will be dodging the British Title.

    Frank Warren cant see the British Title as that important because he has gone down the same path with Hatton, Calzaghe and Khan.
     
  15. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis & Witter both have the belt 'for keeps'.
    Woods often refers to his disappointment that he was unable to defend and win the Lonsdale outright.
    Hatton has often referred ro his pride in winning the British title.
    However it goes without saying that world titles are more sought after than domestic titles.