What type of PEDs Salido used?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Salido coulda had some big paydays and some other accomplishments had he been given the win
     
  2. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    no doubt, and he put on one hell of a performance as well.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysny6Heemo0[/ame]
     
  3. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well first of all I heard that he tested positive on one test after the Guerrero fight then they gave him another test and it cleared him. It was not all that conclusive that he actually was using something. I mean I guess in between tests the PED could have been flushed out or maybe the first test was not right.

    Dude has always had a solid body. Its funny people mention his tone now.
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    u dont need peds to beat a rican...all u need is to be mexican
     
  5. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    The 2nd test was a blood test taken a LabCorp, the next day after his first test...The PED's arent gonna go away in just 1 day in a blood test.
     
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  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is popular one for weight class sports, hell even in cycling. Lighter weight = higher kilowatt output per pound.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He was clearly juicing. He got caught using an anabolic steroid. While what he tested positive for is produced by the body, it's only produced in very small quanities. They adjust for that when they take these tests. Salido going to some other lab to take a test a day later proves very little, which is why the Guerrero bout stayed a no contest, and why he never was reinstated as champion.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Salido has essentially been cleared from the scandal in the fight against the ghost.

    The commission never pursued the results of the second test for whatever reason but his second test was negative. The positive test was from a sample that could have been produced naturally.

    Salido has victories over guerrero, cruz and lopez (x2) he's a good talent.

    Very good victory for both marquez and gamboa.
     
  10. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    There were all kinds of inconsistencies when Salido was NCed against Guerrero. A lot of guys do, but Salido claims he's never juiced at all. IIRC, they found steroids in his post-fight urine sample (Nandrolone, which is just about the easiest one to detect and stays in the system for months), but when he got a live blood test at the lab the next day, it came up negative. Also, they weren't able to retest the post-fight sample because somehow they 'lost' it. Despite all of those irregularities, Nevada turned his win into a NC and suspended him, even though there was significantly stronger evidence that he WASN'T juicing than that he was.
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I respect you and you're usually a good poster, but educate yourself a bit on this one. The drug he was supposedly caught with wouldn't have disappeared overnight, and is one of the easiest to get false positives on. Literally hundreds of times athletes at WADA events have been reinstated from inconsistent Nandro tests, as sometimes the body just naturally produces levels that are higher than what is permitted. There is also evidence that you can end up with positive tests from eating beef from cows that were fed the drug to bulk up their muscle mass.

    http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/nandrolone/nandh.htm

    Salido's specific case has so many irregularities that it really should have been overturned. For instance, Ryan Braun's MLB suspension was overturned for much, much less.
     
  12. Hands Of Chapo

    Hands Of Chapo Recio Pegador, El Chapo! Full Member

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    Then is there anyway to get an accurate result 100% of the time, If the body produces this in stressed times like dehydration and intense activities then wouldn't it be a back and forth thing compared to lets say the effect of sugar which has your blood sugar level going up or down? Because if this PED is naturally produced by the body couldn't it be taken additionally to rise up the levels and get the best recovery in between rounds and in training and then have it lowered naturally in your system since the PED is "Natural" itself.

    This seems to be kind of common to Creatine being your body produces it naturally but in small Quantities but you get the benefits of it in training as it stretches your workouts since it gets your levels higher than the body naturally would. If you were to take a certain amount of grams before a work out and not touch it again it would eventually lower down naturally.

    Im not making a claim Im asking if wouldnt it kind of work this way?

    Salido's style and head movement will always be trouble for juanma but it seems salido is sometimes very Impressive, hes like a tank of oxygen, lol
     
  13. Nope. Nandrolone. [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Salido[/ame]
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/nandrolone-1074
    Nandrolone testing

    Positive tests for the urinary excretion of nandrolone metabolites (19-NA and 19-NE) are normally taken as evidence of illegal use of this anabolic-androgenic steroid drug. However, recent research has suggested that 19-NA and 19-NE can be produced naturally in the body, particularly by prolonged intense effort.

    If this were true, it could mean that the current International Olympic Committee (IOC) threshold level for nandrolone metabolites is not high enough to rule out false positive findings.

    That’s why a team of Belgian researchers recently carried out a study to investigate whether three different exercise methods were able to influence the urinary concentration of 19-NA and 19-NE in healthy young male subjects.

    Fifteen amateur hockey players were randomly assigned to a running, cycling or bench-stepping group to undertake a 30-minute submaximal exercise test, with urine samples collected before the test and 60 minutes and 120 minutes afterwards.

    Baseline urinary 19-NA and 19-NE concentrations were under the limit of detection of 0.05 ng/ml, except for one sample, which registered 0.13ng/ml. However, even this was well below the IOC threshold of 2ng/ml for men. No 19-NA or 19-NE could be detected in any of the subjects post-exercise.

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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm sorry but as a statistician it pains me to see **** like this flaunted as evidence.

    A sample size of 15 is no where near big enough.

    This sample is also entirely consisted of amatuer hockey players!

    Any global conclusion based on a sample of 15 as concentrated as that is utter bull****.