What type of weight lifting should I do for boxing?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by boxingwizard, Aug 8, 2009.


  1. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,810
    0
    Jan 25, 2009
    I have seen a few of my guys catapulted across the gym when we have been doing band sprints - it's quite a sight:shock:
     
  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,437
    64
    Jul 15, 2006
    Bodi, Super Red Is £7 for 12 ft of 6mil by 3" cheap, plus you can make your own things up with it
     
  3. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,810
    0
    Jan 25, 2009
    Where do you get this from, scrap?

    I love my Ironwoody bands, but there have been times where I have wanted a strong band which isn't looped, and I couldn't bring myself to cutting the Ironwoody's.

    I like to use bands straight after isometrics, with no rest as a form of complex training. I usually do the isometric parts with some gymnastic rings that I attached to some ratchet straps. If I had a straight band which wasn't a loop, I could attach a gymnastic ring to that, and hey presto, you have a home made 'complex' training kit comprimising isometric and resistance band devices.

    I have found this type of protocol particularly good for developing javelin throwers, which is my passion, aside from boxing. With the right set up, this protocol could easily be used to form part of my boxers regimes, for resistance, and also 'overspeed' punch training.
     
  4. GNARL

    GNARL Member Full Member

    158
    0
    Nov 26, 2007
    Don't use machines, stick to free weights. The gain translate better to boxing and develop more coordination, balance, and normal kinetic chain patterns. If just starting out in a routine, develop strenght-endurance first. Light weight, many repetitions. This will strengthen your connective tissue enough to prepare for a more intense strength and boxing routine. Develop strength in your postural muscles of your upper back, lower back, glutes. Deadlifts and squats are a must. Lunges too. Abdominal work too, usually last in a workout. As you get closer to a fight, your strenght training becomes more specific, more heavy bag punching, resistance band punching. In between that, you can do lots of medicine ball exercises as directed strenght exercises to develop intramuscular contractions similar to a punch but with added resistance.
     
  5. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,853
    1
    Jul 19, 2004
    I did include squats, leg press, and calf raises in my weihtlifting session Monday, I can feel the effects of it now, though when I did the leg press my thigh muscle above my right knee felt like it was cramping with every lift, but then again I did run a couple miles, and do about 12 rounds total of shadowboxing and heavybag work before that, so I guess that's to be expected.
     
  6. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,810
    0
    Jan 25, 2009
    So you're doing technique work, heavybag work, running and strength work in the same session?
     
  7. Dan

    Dan BiG DaN Full Member

    330
    0
    Jun 28, 2009
    destined to be a champ
     
  8. CHRIS_PARTLOW

    CHRIS_PARTLOW Member Full Member

    116
    0
    Aug 4, 2009
    trust me if you've just lifted 5 x 5 bench and squats as heavy as you can you're not gonna be doing THAT many press-ups and pull-ups afterwards

    it also emphasises both aspects of the muscle - the heavy lifting builds power and size, the bodyweight exercises make sure you maintain high endurance in the muscles as well
     
  9. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,810
    0
    Jan 25, 2009
    Destined to be a dead man more like!

    Wizard - you will be heading towards overtraining very soon if you're not careful. This type of regime alongside your diet and a lack of a coach is going to see you in very poor health, with very bad habits, very soon.
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,437
    64
    Jul 15, 2006
    Bodi is spot on. Simply when Training Muscle contracts for explosive Power, all you do if there are cotractions all the time is to train to get injured. Plus the Explosive power of muscle minimises. You have to think of Expanding that Muscle, more expansion, more contraction, less chance of injury. Less chance of the eyes causing Injury :nut.
     
  11. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,810
    0
    Jan 25, 2009
    To put a finer poin on scrap's advice - think quality, not quantity.
     
  12. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,437
    64
    Jul 15, 2006
    Very True Bodi, Stretching is the Key, Resistance Stretching is the answer to make the adjustments to the Biomechanics that the Eyes cause in primary movement of the dominant side of the action :patsch
     
  13. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,853
    1
    Jul 19, 2004
    Twice a week yes, I do feel I'm overtraining a bit, my muscles don't feel like they're getting enough time to recovery in between days. What should I do then to make sure I don't overtrain but that I get enough training to improve? What should I cut down on as well, less rounds shadowboxing, or what, etc...?
     
  14. CHRIS_PARTLOW

    CHRIS_PARTLOW Member Full Member

    116
    0
    Aug 4, 2009
    well you should really only be lifting weights 3 x a week

    so you could run/skip in the mornings (burn fat) and lift weights in the evenings (build muscle) on the days when you don't box

    so do ^^ that ^^ 3x a week and box 3/4 times and alternate days ie. box monday, run + weights tuesday, box wednesday etc.

    then you work everything but in a way that isn't putting too much stress on your body and allows time to recover and perform to a higher level in worklouts
     
  15. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,810
    0
    Jan 25, 2009
    Wizard, you would know about it if you are overtraining - being overtrained is the biggest kick in the nuts that you will ever know - it is not a nice feeling at all!

    There is a relationship between your workload and your work capacity. If your workload exceeds your work capacity, you are in trouble. You need to build work capacity over time, in a structured way. From an untrained state, you need to prepare your body's structures for the future workload - you achieve this by lots and lots of stretching, both static, dynamic and isometric (at the right times), and voluminous work with little resistance. From what I know of you and your experience in relation to training, this is where your thoughts should be. You are only young, don't set yourself up for a lifetime of injuries, pain and restricted movement by jumping in at the deep end.

    Many will laugh at this suggestion, but if you want a lifetime of pain free movement, mobilty and power throughout your full range of movement, you should start off with something like this:

    Monday - light shadowboxing - dynamic stretching - bag workout - high rep bodyweight exercises - static stretching

    Tuesday - light jog - light footwork drills/patterns - yoga

    Wednesday - similar to Monday

    Thursday - swim using various different strokes - static stretch

    Fri/Sat/Sun - don't view these days as workout days, but stay active, go for a walk in the hills, long bike ride or something along those lines.

    I would stick with that until you can feel your flexibility increasing, which should be in about 4 - 6 weeks. You also need to tap up RDJ and ask him (very politely) to help you with your diet. 4-6 weeks on the above program, combined with a detox and clean 'fuel' in your body will prepare you for more intense training, and that is when you will see real improvements. If you keep on eating **** and following an unstructured training programme when your body can't handle the workload, you will see your performance regress, injury incidence increase, and your general health will deteriorate.

    Before you train hard, you must train smart - preparation is everything!