What was a bigger weakness for Lennox Lewis. His chin or his ego?

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  1. Loewe

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    :lol:
     
  2. Loewe

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    I never understood why some posters are so disrespectful of some fighters. If you don´t like them that´s okay but everybody who steps into the ring deserves respect.
    Personally, I can´t take people serious who aren´t able to show the deserved respect and let their bias stant in the way of their judgement.
     
  3. he grant

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    The question of the thread was how his ego was involved and it is simple .. in the two fights he entered pompass and looking as if he was in outer space, overconfident and arrogant, he got tagged and laid out ... in the rematches he came in highly focused and reversed his losses ...

    McCall was a huge guy who landed a perfect punch full force ... Rachman could crack and he landed his Sunday best dead on as well ...
     
  4. DamonD

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    Out of those two, definitely ego.

    If he did the proper training for the Rahman South Africa fight, he doesn't lose it. If he'd paid more attention to McCall's abilities, and indeed had gone for a better trainer than Correa in the first place, he would've won that too.

    Much more important than his chin. He only took those shots because of the overconfidence.
     
  5. Bigcat

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    Lennox was a BIG BOSS RULER.. in a small mans body early in his career, he was a bit slight and just looking mediocre.. He was handling men like Mason and Ruddock with power speed and guts but whenhe lost .. and Manny got hold of him he came into his own.. Manny saw the future as a big intimidating heavyweight who could potentially overpower everyone out there with a bit more substance.. At 250lbs he was indeed more of a complete heavyweight and less of a half achieving athlete.. It removed him from that upright Olympian style he was stuck with pre 94... The Morrison fight was the first showcase of the Stern faced Heavyweight champ that would rule for a long time.. Without the loss to McCall he still could be the same man , in denial about his ego and approach.. Ollie and Manny made Lewis a better fighter, they woke him up from a sleep of mediocrity........
     
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    Last time I checked, Vitali was more likely to not enter the ring and cancel out, rather than enter the ring.
     
  9. Loewe

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    Well, it´s not about Vitali but about every fighter who gets called a bum or whose name gets deformed. That´s classless and pathetic.
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    Lewis's chin was alright. He faced a lot of good punchers and was only dropped twice (although he was stopped both times).

    I really don't think it was laziness that played a part against McCall. Lewis had technical flaws that Steward helped McCall exploit, and later helped Lewis correct (or at least diminish).

    McCall caught Lewis with that same right hand when Lewis left himself open in round 1. He just didn't catch him as clean.

    It was more balance and technical issues with Lewis against McCall, IMO. Lewis left himself open and was moving into the punch.
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i loved the way rahman teed off on his chin and Lew would grin though you knew he felt it. smiling after being caught clan like that is common though I can't understand the psychology of it. after a few he was done for and so was his rep.
     
  12. The Kurgan

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    If Rahman's career hadn't turned into a cluster**** after losing to Lewis in a totally one-sided contest, there might well have been a rubber match. Holyfield's third fist took care of that possibility, though.
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    I personally don't think it was either, at least not the first KO. Basically Lewis got caught against McCall while he was also trying to throw a punch and McCall's landed first. It happens. Lewis by his own admission, never saw the punch. These are heavyweights with power and I think if anyone gets caught with a punch they don't see, they can go down. Would fighters like Holyfield have stayed up? Probably, but Lewis proved through out his career that his chin was better than average. So this is just getting caught, plain and simple and has nothing to do with chins (unless you're comparing him to those with elite chins) or ego. As for the short count etc. I don't buy any of that..Lewis was finished, end of story.

    As for Rahman, well that one I will put down to ego, because he simply didn't train properly, most likely due to outside comitments. Either he or Manny, underestimated the time it would take to climitize to the high elevation.

    But it's funny, that those who critize Lewis, should take into account what his career could have been except for those two KO's. He would have been undefeated. So Lewis haters should thank their lucky stars.