What was all the fuss about mike Tyson ?

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  1. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's not forget, Douglas was the beneficiary of a 14 count when he fought Tyson. Had it not been for a very slow count, that historical night, may never exist. Was one helluva fight though.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Why couldn't Wlad do to Povektin what Douglas did to Tyson...

    Douglas boxed the breaks of Tyson and looked like a world class ATG HW doing it. People calling him a bum know nothing at all about Buster.
    He had one of the greatest jabs of all time and MaCall said he was the biggest puncher he ever faced.
    If Douglas had the discipline for his career like he had for that one fight , he would of been one of the best HWs of the past 30 years.

    He turned up fat and unmotivated for his next fight then quit the sport where he balooned up to a 300 pound whale. At his best he had all the tools and skills. You don't see well rounded HWs like him in today's era.
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Be prepared for a barrage of 'Povetkin was better than Tyson'

    :tired
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Douglas did it all without a clinch as well. Wlad is a limited one trick pony. The contenders back than had far more variation of skills than he has.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is, the one guy that could have 'exposed' the current Wladmir, happened to be his brother.

    I blame Manny Steward for the clinching, he perfected it with Lewis and Klitscko and Fury seems to have followed suit.
     
  6. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course your chances of winning are bigger if you haven't already been knocked out.
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    About 8 guys went past 8 rounds with Tyson, 4 of those guys beat him.

    Thats 4 guys out of 60 who went past 8 rounds and beat Mike Tyson
     
  8. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My point was that your chances of winning increases if you're not unconsiences.
     
  9. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    wtf? where did i say they watched something on phones? What i meant was that technology was advancing as was media and communication all together so yes phones probably helped to get some information to news agencies.
     
  10. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because there were 4 other big legit champions in Tysons era...Holyfield, Bowe, Foreman and Lewis. Tyson lost to two of them and never fought the other 2. So therefore he's not great. Pretty simple. Get Mikes ballz of your chin now. Thank you.
     
  11. Madmanc

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    Sorry m8 but mobiles where ****in huge back then and definitely none wig screens on to watch stuff on
     
  12. Madmanc

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    At the end of the day Tyson looked good beating bad fighters but when the best opposition u have beat is Bruno and Botha then u can't be considered great
     
  13. VVMM

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    Was the lewis-Tyson undisputed fight? No
    Were the Holyfield-Tyson 1 and 2 undisputed fights? No
    The Tyson-Holmes and the Tyson-Spinks were undisputed fights.
    These were bigger fights.
    Lewis and Holyfield beat a post-prison,manager,trainer,mental etc. problematic fighter(Tyson).
    These weren't big wins.
    Lewis beat a 37 years old Holyfield by points.This isn't a big win.
    Lewis hadn't big win.
    Spinks was only 31 years old against Tyson. He wasn't a overused,tired fighter
    like Holyfield against lewis.
    TYSON'S SPINKS WIN WAS FAR BETTER THAN LEWIS' LAME WIN AGAINST
    THE FEATHERFISTED HOLYFIELD.
    The decent McCAll and the below average Rahman destroyed Lewis easily.
    Lewis' win against Vitali Klitschko wasn't big win also.It was a lucky win by cut.
    Lennox Lewis's carrier longevity sucks.He had only 44 fights in pro.
    Tyson had 58 and Holyfield had 57.Lennox Lewis isn't a ATG.
    He won only one undisputed(WBA,WBC,IBF) fight.
    Big legit champpions: Foreman?.Are you crazy?
    Bowe? He's best win Holyfield.And Holyfield's best win Bowe
    They beat eachother.Otherwise i think Golota humiliated Bowe two times.
    Bowe was mediocre.Holyfield has 10 losses in pro.
    Lewis and big champion? How? V.klitschko,Mercer,First McCall,First Rahman
    fights don't prove this.I think he was a glass-chinned cherry-picker.
    And who was Lewis and Holyfield in the eighties.Nobodies.
    It's bizarre because they are older than Tyson.
    Tyson is the youngest heavyweight world champion at least.
    A 20 years old heavyweight world champion is much more remarkable than Lewis and
    Holyfield full well-managed carrier.
    This Tyson "didn't beat good fighter" thing very weak,pathetic,lame thing against a world-recorder great fighter who was the only man who could knock Holmes out.
    For example: What is the biggest thing in W. klitschko's carrier?
    The wins against the fat Povetkin or against a skinny-glass chinned Haye?
    Holyfield and Lewis beat Tyson.Haha big thing! McBride did this also.
    McBride knocked Tyson out faster than Lewis and Holyfield.
    Lewis' win and Holyfield's wins against Tyson aren't big things.
    Lewis/holyfield combined losses :McCall,Rahman,Bowe(2times),Moorer,Byrd,Toney,
    Donald,Ibragimov,Valuev,Ruiz. What a legit champion "couple"!
    Lewis and Holyfield weren't dominant champions. They were nobodies in
    Tyson's prime.Why? They are older than Tyson.
     
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  14. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you're an idiota.Your brain is bad.
     
  15. woombox

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    The 5 rounds analogy may be suspect. Honestly I haven't watched old Tyson fights for a while now. It's just how I remember it.
    Holyfield didn't beat him down from round 1 and even in the Lewis fight, Mike was still dangerous at times. Douglas-Tyson was competitive early. Surely Tysons record speaks for itself though, if he was going to be beaten (close to his prime) then it was down the stretch.
    He couldn't be blown out early or beaten in a Hagler/Hearns type scenario.
    I honestly don't know why you are arguing my point, I'm not a tyson hater.
    Don't put me in that group.