What was in Pryors water bottle?

You say Pryor's victory lacked validity. Everywhere I look it says Pryor WTKO14 Arguello, explain what is not valid?

 

Again... Illegal is Illegal... Pryor didn't win the fight in my eyes nor many. It doesn't matter what was in there.. it wasn't water and thus illegal

 

It's in the same bracket as tyson v golota for me: it should be remembered as a victory but it has a question mark.

Things like this though, there's no point debating with you; you're one of them "linearity rules" and "only official results count" kind of guys.

Basically the root of our disagreement isn't this instance, nor ali v norton. It is infact the way we look at things.

Pryor had a water bottle containing a substance other than water; that i'm happy with. The burden of proof is on the claimant and unless it can be proved that the substance was performance enhancing it shouldn't detract too much. A question mark is certainly needed however.

 

If you do not get caught, it is not illegal. You need a court of law to prove illegality. Show me where Pryor Win TKO14 Arguello was overturned, and I will agree with you...

What you are doing, is some moral crusade, that is prejudice against just one fighter. I put it to you, like it I put it to apollack, every world class fighter has in one form or another cheated in their lives. It does not take away from their achievements, nor should it take away from Pryor's brilliance.

 

Bingo.

 

Why in just this instance though? If you want it as a standard, then every fighter needs to prove they had just water, or otherwise every fight has to be questioned.

Sure Panama Lewis was far from the nicest fella the sport has produced, and yes, anyone who knew of him, would struggle to give the man any benefit of any doubt. But for boxing to work properly, you have to accept the result, there is no evidence that would hold up in court to prove otherwise (like you suggested).

 

No it's more that one has to prove another wasn't drinking water.

Fortunately i'm not a court of law, i'm a man with an opinion and based on what I saw it's evident to me he did not drink water.

It's not just this fight, this fight is, however, the topic of the thread.

Start a new thread and show me other boxer's you believe to have cheated and i'll analyse and conclude as I see fit.

 

You can't hear him say.. no not the water bottle.. the special bottle... why would a plain and simple water bottle be a SPECIAL BOTTLE? To go further, his trainer ADMITTED it wasn't just water. Yet you're going to tell me we need a court of law in order for the fight to be invalidated. No... there is a statue of limitations.. and once it came out.. years later with Lewis admission it wasn't just water.. it was too late. However, that being that case doesn't make it any less illegal

 

i dont know but it looks like it carried over into his rematch

 

If you do not get caught, it is not illegal: bull****.

Taking drugs is illegal whether you get caught or not. You better do some reading.

If Pryor had an illegal substance in the bottle, then it was an illegal act. Nothing was found or investigated so he is not guilty from a legal sense. However, as a boxing fan, if you believe strongly enough that there was something enhancing his performance, then you would naturally consider this win null and void. I watched the fight once and didn't notice the bottle, however I have seen the evidence and it is damning.

I like Pryor but that was wrong if he did add something to the bottle.

 

Water.

 

:think So do you agree or disagree with the point?

 

There WASN'T WATER in the bottle.. thus illegal and makes the win null and void. That is all that needs to be said on the matter

 

He asked what was in Aaron Pyor's water bottle.Now,correct me if I'm wrong,but water bottles are used to contain water,are they not?

 

You're getting into dodgy ground here, look most fights cheat, some in the ring and countless boxers take PEDs, countless. We have more proof of Mosley, Vargas, Holyfield, Vitali cheating than we do of Pryor. Most HWs do PEDs and it's pretty obvious but so do lower weight class guys. You may aswell erase their whole careers for the most part because the PED has aided them, same as with Pryor here

Pryor may have used some ephidrine, which may have given him a bit of a boost but it doesn't do the work for you and it doesn't mean he couldn't have done the same thing without it - I mean with Steward he repeated the win without anything