**What was Lacy's demise.....**

True and I agree with many points, but you can be a fan without being a nuthugger. He was an accomplished guy who had not just beaten some good people, but destroyed them.

I remember calling the fight 60/40 in Lacy's favor, based on his youth and the fact that Calzaghe would box well but eventually be tempted to trade. At that point, I thought he probably would stop or hurt Joe and take over. When Joe stood his ground and simply outslugged Jeff, I was shocked and horrified.

He kicked the **** out of Jeff fighting Jeff's fight.

 

He tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round and won a decision. He fought 10 rounds with an injury that made many fighters quit including Vitali Klitschko. He beat a top 20 SM with one arm.

 

You certainly weren't alone in that. I'm not sure anyone on the West side of "The Pond" thought that what happened would happen, or even could happen. I was part of that contingent who did not see that coming.

There was so much 'heat' around the fight, for so many reasons: Euro vs American, two undefeated fighters who looked to be at the top of their games, brawler vs boxer-puncher, and all the race stuff. Even for a big fight, the hype was off the chain, no matter what any (former) Lacy fan tries to say now about how 'little-known' Lacy was before the Calzaghe throttling.

You just don't see beatdown shutouts like that of highly-rated challengers every day. But they do happen. I'm thinking Margarito-Cintron.

What made JL-JC so remarkable was the incredible amount of hype and interest and assuredness of each guys' supporters that 'their guy' would win. If anything, I think the JC fans were more nervous than were Lacy's supporters.

The fight ending up like a boxing version of the Spurs-Cavs NBA Finals, was, I think, the main reason for the huge amount of separate articles on the contest the next day on ESB. Or, at least, that's what I want to believe.

 

his demise was a torn rotator cuff against Tsypko

 

I thought Lacy looked bad against Omar. He was getting hit with combinations almost every time Omar threw them. He is just too easy to hit and his power is over rated but still pretty good. He may not be able to come back after the one sided loss to Joe. IMO he has done nothing since.

 

Tsypko was a bad guy to come back against in the first place.
Jeff lost that fight, not by a wide margin but clearly, though he showed a lot of heart to win some rounds and be competitve in others with a bad injury.

Jeff just wasnt that good, people wanted him to be because he is fun to watch but he wasnt as good as the top dogs.

He will be back though and probably will win another title at some stage, also Im sure he will be in some memorable scraps before he retires.

 

That line in bold had me giggling like a little shoolgirl.

Joe Calzaghe is the real deal and he proved a lot of people wrong that night.

He will prove a lot of people wrong again come Calzaghe/Kessler.

 

yeah it wasnt a demise it's when your left arm is broken...then you have got problems... people act like lacy was just as badly beaten but it wasnt he use his jab and used his head movements and used his skills to move and weave.

but when your rotator cuff goes your ****ed you cant use the front arm .his two best weapons are gone the jab nd the hook.

 

Boxing is very fickle most of the times. Lacy has enough talent and ability to get back in the mix at SM. With the exception of the top 2 he could beat anyone at 168. I wouldn't be surprised to see him fight the winner of Green-Manfredo next.

 

Complete lack of a plan B...when he saw Calzaghe just take his shots without so much as blink he mentally did not know what to do.I don't Calzaghe HAD to stand and trade with Lacy he just likes to do that sometimes if he is either bored or feels that the other guy cannot hurt him.He really can fight either boxing or brawling,one of the few I've seen who can do that at the very top level

 

Jeff is NOT done. Let's see what he looks like when he comes back later this year

 

Lacy put on a good performance, he was throwing a fair few punches, Calzaghe just put on the greatest boxing performance ever seen -fullstop-

 

That beating was kind of like the beating David Reid took from Felix Trinidad. Tito ruined Reid, but I think Lacy is made of sturner stuff than Reid. Both Reed and Lacy were too green to fight such supreme fighters, and they both suffered the same fate. Lacy does have a lot of power, but when you are fighting elite fighters, raw power will only get you so far. If he had a top flight trainer, he could become a more complete fighter and win a championship or two.​

 

If he clearly lost the fight then most people would agree with you and that just isnt the case. many had Lacy winning that fight.




I dont think that lacy is gone, but his downfall in that fight with joe was a couple of things. ONE he didnt respect Joe, saying stuff like Joe will win a few rounds before I catch him with some big shots. TWO Joes handspeed was faster then I think Lacy thought. THREE the shoulder thing was something that Lacy had to work though his entire career, vs lesser fighters it wasnt enough to stop Lacy. FOUR he wasnt prepared, once he didnt hurt Joe he had no plan B. FIVE It was David Reid, Fernando Vargas all over again. Lacy just wasnt in a point in his career that he could take on an elite fighter, and do well.