What was Louis best fight in his comeback 1950-1951?

Thought provoking questions which we seem to have preliminarily skirted around in other posts
In 1951 Louis was number 6, I think he beats 4 of his 8 contemporaries
ps Glad to see you posting regularly again.:good

 

He beats
Sys
Williams
Lastarza
Brion
Might lose to :
Baker
Baksi
Loses to
Charles
Henry

I haven't seen all Louis's comeback fights so am not qualified to answer the question.
I thought he looked pretty good against Lavorante though.

 

I think to beat comeback Louis a fighter needs to not let Louis set the pace, hit hard, either smother and crowd him like Rocky or out speed him like Charles did.

I don't see Baksi doing it. He was a plodder there to be hit. I imagine he allows the room and pace for Louis to set himself.

Baker and Lastarza would be good fights but we're they any better than the guys comeback Louis beat? Henry? I don't think I could favour anyone outside of Charles and Walcott.

Brion was as good as any of the contenders out there and Bivins was no easy mark even then.

 

Lee Savold is the fight that some say Joe looked a little like his old self.

He still had some of his former power at this time and would have beaten a few of the top men still around.

 

I think you mean Agramante, I keep making the same mistake:good

Lavorante was the guy who knocked out zora Foley then got knocked out by Archie Moore.

 

I think we would have to regard Savold as his best win, because he was fighting somebody who was a key player in the division, and stopped him.

So who would have beaten him then?

Charles and Walcott were significantly better by then.

There are a few other people who would likely have turned the trick, notably Henry.

 

Savold probably his best win.

I think he might well beat everyone apart from Rocky Marciano and Ezzard Charles.
I'd give him a 50-50 chance against Jersey Joe Walcott who won the championship that year.
Clarence Henry was impressive in 1951, but I can't remember if I've seen him, so I'll sit on the fence with that one. He might have Joe's number, Joe might have his.

Look, Joe Louis was washed-up but he it would still take a great talent to beat him. And the ranks weren't exactly brimming at that point.

 

No chance.

Walcott would have had his revenge.

 

I don't see it, with Walcott.
He was knocked out by a very badly faded Joe Louis in 1948, and if Joe had become worse, so, I suspect, had Walcott. ... If not, then he still doesn't have enough to earn confidence in him surviving Louis, since he did get KO'd by a fairly horrible version.

Walcott lost to Rex Layne in 1950 if I remember rightly. He was aggressive against Charles in the 3rd match and found a sneak punch but didn't look remarkable in the 4th match.
Stylistically he's not a proven beater of even a poor Joe Louis, contrary to what some people say.

I'd make Louis-Walcott a clear 50-50 fight.

Charles beats Louis in 1951, I think, but actually the gap between them was probably closer in 1951 than what the 1950 match showed.

 

See my above post.
You base your statement on what ?

 

Don't confuse the Louis of 50 with the Louis of 48, he had gone back a long way.

Walcott for contrast, had gone back very little, if at all.

Walcott would have been getting much the better of it, and with Louis's reflexes dulled, and his right arm impaired, there would have been no late finish to bail Louis out.

It might even be the case that Walcott would have brought his own judges this time.

 

Yes I do, thank you for correcting me:good