What was the big deal about Oscar?!

Oscar's fought everyone and fought most of the best closely.

 

I'm disappointed that this is coming out again, four years after I've been to the Grand Jury and gave my truthful testimony, Mr. Mosley said in a 2007 press release. I even took a lie detector test back then to let everyone know that I wasn't trying to be an unfair fighter. And to Mr. Mosley's credit, it was a polygraph that he was estimated to have passed.

Like I said, stop trying to trash the man by ignoring facts.

The source of my quote is from the scene that talks about boxing.

 

My source is the NY Daily News......

 

How the **** do you not know what goes in you and not notice? B****ingS

 

Bob Arum and great marketing.

 

In terms of merit, his boxing skills/potential and accomplishments within the ring as a fighter are all asymmetric to his popularity. But who says that there is a one to one correspondence between accomplishments and popularity? If this were so, Floyd would be the most popular fighter in ages and Bush would never be elected president. As other posters have pointed out, there are many more factors that go into the popularity equation. Oscar's popularity cannot be justified by his boxing accomplishments/attributes alone.

 

Your source does not contradict my source.

He was not aware what he was taking was a PED. He could have thought it was a vitimin or something else.

 

Yeah, I mean he only has wins over the likes of Chavez, Whitaker, Vargas, Mayorga, Camacho, Quartey, ect...

So.. if he would have received his rightful decision against Trinidad... he should be looked upon different? There isn't a sane boxing fan in the world who thinks that Tito won that fight.... Along with Mosley in their second fight. On top of that, not only did Oscar really beat Shane in their 2nd fight, we now know that Shane was admitted to taking a hardcore regimen of steroids during training for that fight.

223-5 (163 kos) - Olympic Gold Medal

World Champion in 6 different weight divisions as a professional. Never even came close to losing a fight until he was in his 4th weight division.

Along with professional wins over guys like Gatti, Leija, Castillejo, Paez, Ruelas, John John Molina, Gonzalez, Hernandez, ect... that he beat, I think that you have to be downright insane to pretend like he wasn't a great fighter.

Then you downplay his attributes? Oscar had BLAZING handspeed, one punch knockout power, GREAT defense, there was a point when Oscar was already a welterweight that all of his opponents combined had landed less than 14% of their punches against him on average. I would love to know how someone without a good defense manages that. On top of all that, his footwork used to be top notch, he also had a great chin, one of the best jabs in boxing, and also one of the best left hooks in boxing. His combinations were absolutely amazing. Have you ever even seen this guy in his prime? He was the total package.

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Against those big names, Chavez was shot, Whitaker was past his prime and arguably won, Vargas isn't a ATG nor HoF, Mayorga is a club fighter with Vernon Forrest's number, Camacho was shot, Quartey was shot but arguably won the fight as well.

Oscar never really fought any of his HoF peers except for Tito, which despite the decision I feel he won. Oscar lost to Shane, ducked Forrest and never made a fight with Winky.

 

Quartey wasn't shot. He was coming off a 16 month layoff, but still in/near his prime. I woudn't even say Chavez was shot in 1996 either. Past his prime to be sure, but not shot.

 

Exactly bro, which is what makes him a BIG deal. And yes Arum did a dam fine job only to have Oscar spit in his face and insult him a couple of times, like the time he called Arum "the worst jew to come out of harvard" lol..Now days Oscar is more about talking and hyping the fights up than actually doing anything meaninful in the ring. He doesnt really care if he wins or losses and that is something I said before this last fight. Someone stated that with a win last saturday night Oscar would had gotten a re-match with PBF and I said "who the ****s want to see that", when we all know the outcome right?

 

First of all, those aren't the only names on Oscar's resume. Just a few that I named. We can play the "tear down a guys resume" game with every single fighter alive. Also... Chavez being "shot" is a complete lie. The man was only 33 years old, and was still the Champion AND still ranked high in the pd 4 pd rankings. Not only that, but AFTER oscar dominated him, he went on to win every single fight of his in the next 3 years outside of his next fight with Oscar. That isn't how a shot fighter performs.

As far as Whitaker goes, Pernell himself called his fight against Oscar as one of his 5 greatest performances, EVER. He himself said that he was definitely not past it in that fight, and performed at the height of his game. He even brought footage of that fight to an episode of FNF that he was co-hosting because he was so proud of it. Just because he fell into a drug problem and went into rehab AFTER his fight with Oscar, doesn't discredit what Oscar did BEFORE that happened.

Now the undefeated 29 year old Quartey was shot too? This **** never ends with you guys.

Oscar ducked Forrest? Forrest was only briefly in the spotlight, and he only came into the spotlight at 147 AFTER Oscar had already moved out of the weight class. Not only that... but IMMEDIATELY after Forrest got into the spotlight by winning his two fights with Shane, he was knocked out 6 months later by Mayorga. You can't ever say that Oscar ducked anyone, because the man was always fighting mega fights. He can only fight one guy at a time.

As far as Winky goes... it was already widely reported and ADMITTED by Winky Wright himself back in 2005, Oscar offered Winky more money than Winky had ever made in his career for a fight that would have taken place in November. Winky turned it down. This after Winky had spent the entire year talking ****, and acting like he was calling Oscar out. So, how exactly can Oscar be blamed when it was Winky who turned down the offer from Oscar? Not only just an offer... but an offer for more money that Winky has ever made. This just shows the bias that you have against Oscar.

 

Who had him on the p4p rankings?

Not boxing publications like The Ring.

Chavez had left the p4p rankings after 1994.

Who had him ranked highly in June 1996?

 

Who conducted the test? Someone employed by SS, The fix was in.