What was the biggest fight in the history of boxing?

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What was the biggest fight in the history of boxing?

  1. The Rumble in the Jungle, George Foreman vs. Muhammad Ali, October 30, 1974

    28.2%
  2. Fight of the Century, Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali, March 8, 1971

    42.7%
  3. Thrilla in Manila, Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier lll, 1 October 1975

    2.9%
  4. The Burns-Johnson Fight, Tommy Burns vs. Jack Johnson, 26 Dec 1908

    1.0%
  5. The Long Count Fight, Gene Tunney vs. Jack Dempsey ll, September 22, 1927

    1.0%
  6. The Fight of the Century, Jack Johnson vs. James J. Jeffries, 4 July 1910

    1.0%
  7. The Second fight, Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling, June 22, 1938

    6.8%
  8. The Super Fight, Marvin Hagler vs. Sugar Ray Leonard, 6 April 1987

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    0.0%
  9. Once and For All, Mike Tyson vs. Michael Spinks, June 27, 1988

    2.9%
  10. The Battle for Greatness, Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao, May 2, 2015

    13.6%
  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Louis vs Schmelling. No doubt at all. You literally need a WWIII to have another fight like this one.
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Their was more action in Duran v Leonard in Montreal.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I preferred Montreal.
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Outstanding list! If I were to nitpick, I might have a slightly different order (I'd have Johnson-Jeffries as my clear #3 behind the two you mentioned), I'd probably have Tyson-Spinks higher (which I'm glad to see you've inlcuded, as I think the magnitude of that one has been downplayed with hindsight because of the manner of victory), and I MIGHT be inclined to include Leonard-Hearns 1 and maybe another fight, but again - I'm just nitpicking.

    Solid!

    :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    What you say is undeniably true. But at the same time, the magnitue of that upset is part of what allows it to magically live in forever as a legendary encounter during the long rich history of professional boxing.
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    On a quasi-related note, this was my take on the most significant heavyweight championship fight in each decade. Most people seemingly disagreed with my pick from the 1960s (and I can definitely see that opposing POV), and several disagreed with me on a few other decades.

    But I think some of these are pretty clear cut choices, and while this video is limited to heavyweight bouts, many of the selections I made appear here in the poll.

    My 2 cents for anyone interested.

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  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lots of action is great but it's not the end all be all.

    SRL/Hearns 1 was great because not only was it a classic boxer vs puncher matchup but both fighters traded places in that regard with one being the boxer and the other being the puncher until one gets hurt. Then they trade places with the other being the boxer and the boxer becoming the puncher. Then the other one gets hurt and they trade places yet again. There was a lot of versatility from both fighters where they both proved they were both elite doing what they both did best with both having success. It's not something that happens a lot. Usually it's one fighters style overcoming the others style. I can't think of a whole lot of fights where both fighters completely switch roles that many times at that level.
     
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  8. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not greatest, but biggest fight ever.

    And even if Robinson didn't make a list of 'greatest fights ever', it may well suggest opposite of what you're saying, in that Sugar Ray was so dominant that even the greats couldn't produce anything dramatic enough against him to stamp a fight as 'great'.
     
  9. James Page

    James Page Active Member banned Full Member

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    No I get it, but surely the greatest fighter ever would have been involved in at least one of the biggest fights ever, no?

    Especially considering Robinson fought for nearly 3 decades, no?

    So just to play along, what was Robinsons greatest fight ever?

    La Motta on Valentine's?
    Henry Armstrong?
    Bobo Olson?

    He was the greatest fighter ever, so surely he should have at least a handful of Greatest Fights ever, no?
     
  10. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know which fights of Robinson's were the best, maybe the Valetine's day massacre? No idea.
     
  11. Daz_F

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    FOTC. Even today the sport is still dealing with the whole ‘two undefeated champions fighting each other’ shtick. Big part of why fighters protect their records so much.
     
  12. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I just meant it more in terms of the legacy this fight has, even today. People who don’t even follow boxing know about this fight and who Buster Douglas was. But you make a very good point too and are probably right.
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think you were wrong at all. Tyson-Douglas is undoubtedly remembered as one of the biggest and most significant fights in history, regardless of the anticipation going in. It is, quite literally, the personification of the ultimate underdog story.
     
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  14. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably Louis/Schmeling II

    If not that Ali/Foreman: The Rumble
     
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  15. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Rummy, can I ask you a random question since you seem to know a lot about the early days of gloved boxing? Do you know when fighters started wearing handwraps in fights? I had heard the 1920s but I have found references to guys like Jeffries, Corbett, and Fitzsimmons wearing them in the first decade of the 1900s (it appears they referred to them as “bandages” or “hand bandages” mostly during that early period). It sounds like Jeffries wasn’t a big fan but would occasionally wear them, perhaps more in training than actual fights. Interestingly, Lomachenko doesn’t like wearing handwraps either and usually only does it when he is forced to. He mentioned that most of the great fighters of the late 19th century and early 20th century did fine with hardly ever wearing them.