What was the consensus on Mike Tyson in 86-88?

Yeah? And I put post Spinks, so what now cornpoke?

 

There you go again dreaming about Tyson's whizzer, fukkin hoemo. Yo mama had a thing for Tyson's whizzer displayed as a mantle piece.

 

Truthfully, Tyson was considered one of the best heavyweights who ever lived at that time. He was exciting. People couldn't get enough of him in or out of the ring. And, really, most of the magazines at the time thought he could've beaten anyone in history ... with the exception of Ali. Most thought Ali would give him problems.

 

Mike Tyson was good for boxing during that time. He went mainstream.

Going mainstream usually annoys hard-core boxing aficionados because when boxing goes mainstream everyone has as an opinion. But when boxing isn't mainstream all that is left is boxing people. And boxing people loved Mike Tyson too.

The real students of boxing history have a grasp of perspective within the sport that the whole world seems to jump on from time to time. And Tyson got a pass because he respected history and appeared more determined to create and understand legacy at that point.

Imagine GGG was a heavyweight and only 20 years old? We were all sold but to be fair, at that point, even though with hindsight you can break down and pick holes in Tyson for a moment really was the genuine article. He passed the test and looked like a Joe Louis for my generation. We were waiting for someone to give him a great fight. To give him competition. He was that good.

 

You insert it daily into your inbred ass whilst ****ing over pics you have of the ****** freak. You're mother as had more *****s than a second hand dartboard....

 

The enlarged part is simple revisionism. How many guys from assistants to sparring partners were kicked out of the Catskills because they wouldn't go along with the megalomaniac Tomato and his klingon's, and their master plan of building the confidence of the reta rded freak with the mental capacity of a 3 year old?

Tyson's weakness was the best kept secret in boxing as far as the public were concerned, but plenty in the boxing world were well aware of it.

Tyson's early career was probably the best illusion since Siegfried and Roy, hence his short prime. Of course no one expected Buster to shatter it, but make no mistake someone was always going to take a fight to Tyson sooner rather than later, and expose the myth.


I prefer to see genuine tough guys like Duran, and Hagler performing in the ring for myself. I don't want to listen to lowlife ass wipes TELLING me their boy is the baddest man on the planet whilst feeding him junkies, alcoholics, and C class fighters.

 

Wasn't your boy Lewis knocked out by one of those very same.sparring partners?

Do you want me to go into further detail about what Mcall thought about Tyson and what he thought of Lewis?

Regarding those c level junkies and alcoholics, didn't Lewis make a name of beating the same Biggs, Tuckers, Ruddocks and Brunos of the world?

 

That's all cancelled out because Lewis did actually beat him when they did fight, better resume, better longevity, better record...

 

I remember thinking he was special and different because of the way the boxing magazines were covering his every move before he even challenged for the title. When he finally did win it, it was more like keeping an appointment than anything. He was expected to blaze through the ranks, and he didn't disappoint. For a brief time, he was the real deal, and was treated like it. He was THE thing in boxing at a time when it was sorely needed. He doesn't get enough credit for that. In his own way that was indeed different than the way Ali or Leonard did it, he made outsiders talk about boxing.

I love listening to people now that feel some weird need to tear him down......I just think okay, well let's run down the list of things he did then, shall we? He didn't just knock opponents out, he obliterated them in cartoon-like fashion.......he convincingly won in his first title shot, then unified almost immediately.......he was a no bullsh/t fighter who came to do battle every time out, not dancing around and grabbing and clinching all the time........and he made casual sports fans tune in to boxing matches for perhaps the only times in their lives, before or since.

Yet still they b/tch. Don't want much out of a fighter, do they? :roll:

 

Yep he was, and he avenged the defeat by making the junkie vermin break down in front of the whole world, and beg Mills Lane to stop the fight.

Now you will have noticed I used the words " junkie vermin " to describe McCall, so go ahead and post any opinions from him you wish, but they would be as worthless to me as the opinions of any other junkie low life from any inner city on this planet.

NO, is not a hard word to say, when first offered junk. Believe it or not billions of us have managed it.

 

February 11th 1990 would seem to disprove your assumption of Tyson being ready to do battle whenever he entered the ring.

Knocking over old guys who have been out of the ring nearly 2 years, guys with drug, and / or booze problems, and generally non elite fighters should never be confused with being willing to do battle when under pressure.

 

This is all true, like i said before he put almost a whole career into 3 yrs, he was in that rare space where he transcended boxing and was prob the most famous athlete on the planet at that time, his second career killed all that good will he had built up

 

The younger guys thought he was invincible almost like Superman and he cleaned out a poor division of the decade before him. Tyson was a breath of fresh air and he was knocking off guys that struggled with one-another and making them look bad and then dominated Holmes.

The smarter guys knew that it would take a tough fight and see how well Tyson would respond to a guy that stood up to him and hit back, like Sonny Liston before him and others but the kid had potential to be a super-great.

I think losing Cus was a big loss for Mike and he failed in the mental strength department where he may have succeeded if Cus was there. Ali had Dundee with the Cooper, Liston,Frazier fights and Angelo made a big difference with mental strength, Ali succeeded, Tyson didn't do as well

 

You're talking out of your ass, you do know that Tyson wasn't even champ when Cus died so I don't know where you get that rubbish from. Cus couldn't fight for the mother ****er, his mental strength would have always been light years behind the likes of Ali, Frazier and co wether he had Cus or not with him.