What was the most heart breaking demise..

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  1. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of any fighter...

    For me, it was Mike Tyson. As a youngster idolise Mike Tyson, and dear i say it loved him in a way. After the Lennox Lewis fight, i remember living the living room and i sat in the down stair's toilet crying by myself.

    I liked both fighters, and that fight tour me apart inside.

    I have long been a member of TysonTalk, and i slowly began to become fustrated and angry at Mike Tyson as the years went by. To a point where i began to sound like Teddy Atlas, people must understand why Teddy Atlas sounds so bitter and angry towards Mike Tyson.

    It is because, Mike Tyson was a shooting star.

    Teddy Atlas's very own words, and he knows deep down that he will never come across anything like that for as long as he live's.

    I remember walking on the street, and as the wind was blowing. There lay on the floor a newspaper article, it was the back page's on the Echo or whatever.

    And there was a picture of Danny Williams, and the title "Legend Killer" and Mike Tyson in the background sitting on the floor. Me and my mate, ripped up the news paper article in the middle of the street.

    On the night of the Mike Tyson vs Kevin Mcbride fight, nothing felt right. It was a bad production, and the commentator's where talking of Mike Tyson as if he was in his early 20's during the build up. As Mike Tyson walked to the ring, you could see in his eye's he was no longer that animal, he was no longer Iron Mike. He was trying to intimidate McBride as he stepped in the ring, and stare him out. But Mike Tyson looked very nervous...

    As i was sitting watching the fight with my brother i said, Mike Tyson has been civilised and humbled by life, he is no longer Iron Mike. Fighters like Nigel Benn, Roberto Duran, need that badness in them...that hate, to fight the way they fight. Nigel Benn carried the death of his brother through his fighting years, Roberto Duran carried the thoughts of his up bringing, and all the homeless children in his homeland.

    And Mike Tyson..? no one really truely know's what he was angry with, even if he told you..i doubt he would be telling the full truth.

    During the Kevin Mcbride fight, there is a moment in the fight. Where Mike Tyson starts to turn the clock back, when he is trying rough house tactic's, trying the snap Mcbride's arm. I for once was cheering this, because that's the baddest man on the planet, that was Iron Mike. Because even when Cus died, and Kevin Rooney was fired..Mike Tyson never stopped being Iron Mike Tyson. His technique may have deminished, but that badness! was always there..

    And that was his life force..!

    After Mike Tyson quit on his stool, i just layed in bed upset and cried alittle bit..

    Because i knew it was the end.

    Because i knew..
     
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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Alis upsets me

    watching tapes of him in his prime he is so great and fast and so charismatic

    also Watson is quite sad buts hes come through so well
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Well demise means death ,but I get what you mean .
    I'm sorry to rain on your parade but I think Tyson's fall from grace was entirely predictable,and hastened by the death /demise of Cus D'mato and Jim Jacobs.Tyson had the makings of a great fighter,unfortunately imo he was/is a piece of **** as a human being .The fighter whose deteriation saddened me was Ali, he was of my era . I was on the verge of leaving school when he won the title ,and in my 30's when he retired,his decline has been tragically sad to watch, all the more poignant if you saw him in his prime,and shared your youth together.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The demise of Joe Louis (inside and outside the ring) tends to tug at the heart strings.

    There are too many sad stories to list really.

    Barbados Joe Walcott ended up working as a janitor at the gardens. He was killed by a speed ing car and nobody found out untill decades later.

    Sam Langford ended up blind and living in apauling poverty.

    Perhaps the saddest is the story of Jimmy Bivins.
     
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  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Modern times I guess Billy Collins Jr. Davey Moore (80s, 154lbs version) was another tragic death, in more ways than one.

    As for the past, well the death of Battling Siki deserves mention.

    If Sammy Langford did not have that bit of comfort at the end of his life, one of the ten finest fighters ever would be on this list.
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Larry Gains mentions Siki in his autobiography" The Impossible Dream", they were contempories.Gains said that Siki ,trailed by a large entourage ,would descend on a bar ,march up the counter and order drinks for everyone,then ask the Proprietor "do you beleive in God",the answer was invariably in the affirmative ,to which Siki would reply,"well beleive he will pay the drinks bill then". Not surprisingly he was murdered .
     
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  7. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol he cried
     
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  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL, I read Peter Benson's book on Siki (a hard, but good read), Siki had many flaws, but also was as brave as they came. Also he was a lot smarter than portrayed by many, and suffered for the colour of his skin (again, not alone there either).
     
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  9. EireFightFan

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    Outside the ring:
    Benny Lynch - washed up at 25, dead from alcoholism and malnutrition at 33.
    Randolf Turpin - hounded by the tax man and comitted suicide.
    Sonny Liston - 'died the day he was born'.
    Joe Louis - hounded by the tax man, addicted to heroin, looking for microphones in hotel air conditioning, meeting and greeting at Ceaser's Palace.
    Stanley Ketchel - shot in the back.
     
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  10. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Its funny how you can get so attached to fighters. I was also a big fan of Tysons, but I always knew from his first fight back with McNeely he wasnt the same fighter. I never expected much from Tyson and wasnt suprised to see Holy whip his ass.
    So many sad endings.:D
    Roy Jones got knocked out
    James Douglas was KO'd by Lou Savarese after the amazing comeback story
    Tyson trying to again foul out against Kevin McBride because he couldnt win
    Holyfield getting pummeled by Larry Donald, James Toney and Chris Byrd
    Ali getting pummeled by Berbick
    Diego Corrales getting beat down by Mayweather
    Zab Judah getting knocked out by Tszyu :happy
    Gerald Mclellan getting brain damage against Nigel Benn
    Moorer getting Ko'd after winning ever round against Foreman
    Chavez getting dropped by Frankie Randall
    David Tua getting pummeled by Lennox Lewis
    Trinidad getting beat down by Hopkins (wasnt suprised)
    Klitscho getting KO'd by Corrie Sanders.:happy
    Golota beating Bowe down
    Mcall landing that right hand on Lennox Lewis with his eyes closed

    Part of boxing my man
     
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  11. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reading what happen to Ezzard Charles was sad also watching Benn having to throw the towel against Collins was sad Nigel was a true warrior in his prime.
     
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  12. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Benn pro career finale is a bit sad because some always said he had a bit of the dog in him and he seemingly disproved that with the McClellan fight, only to reignite the issue in the Collins bouts.
     
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  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    what happened to charles
     
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  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Arguello/Pryor II: Watching the once great warrior sit on the canvass and take the count broke my freaking heart.
     
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  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    that was sad

    what about Meldricks taylor decline after Chavez

    Chavez ruined Taylor that great body oozing of potential and excitement and it brings a tear to y eyes to hear or see taylor know
     
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