What was the point of George Foreman vs. the "Toronto Five"?

yes when foreman was practically an amateur with a proffesional record of 3-0 destroyed wepner like a little insect, yes wepner was a big monster.

 

Apparantly it was the great Marvin Gaye. Can't recall where I read it. I suppose I just heard it through the grapevine.

 

I suppose that George was desperate to get that 'knockout feeling' back. It was a complete farce.

 

You are one of the biggest ******s on the forum and I apologize to ******s for using that word to describe you. I do not hate Foreman I rate him high overall but Big George had a lot of flaws and was beatable at that time but not by everyone, you would have to get past George power and initial surge and be able to hit him back hard, not an easy task.

When I was about your age, I thought George was the greatest thing since sliced Bread and still rate him high, as a person he is one of my favorites but saw the flaws as I gained knowledge in the sport.

Learn a little respect and don't tell people to FO, if you were in front of me I guarantee you would be much more respectful but its easy to be a cyber tough guy ...George was always in condition but as a young man had too much muscle and faded quickly, he learned some tricks later and gained knowledge but his body was older....so grow up and stop being the Jack Off moron when ever someone has a different opinion then you.

 

i hate the clowns like you the typical "respetable" trolls are the worst, all your comments are trash .crappy comments type ( i love foreman but marciano would beat him) you are the simpleton who said that foreman was 6´2,and you are the ****ing ******ed who said that foreman would lose against marciano based on the next stupid and ******ed logic " the 5´5 qawi did hit foreman 88 in the face too much so marciano would beat prime foreman" lmao what an idiot... OF COURSE THAT YOU ARE A FOREMAN HATER .go back to your cave ****ing troll. you know a crap about boxing

 

:rofl:rofl what a waste human this poor old man

 

Go back into your hole in the ground you little worm, you are probably only in the 5th grade, I never said Foreman was 6"2 I said he was at least 6"3 and all of the other stuff you are putting your adolescent spin & Twist on.

I am not going to upgrade your credibility by paying too much attention to your Loud ugliness and verbal ******ation

 

:hi: GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE

 

So, if Foreman were 6'2" would you no longer like him? What if Foreman was 6'3" in the morning right out of bed, but only 6'2" at the end of the day before bed, would that wreck your fantasies? Would you have to go shop around for a new hero who was 6'4"?

Go check out Bob Sapp: he's bigger than Foreman ever was! :yep

 

Foreman once said (maybe in his book, By George), something along the lines of:

"Boxing has always had an element of 'Come see the bearded lady.'"

The Toronto Five exhibition is no more disgraceful than Ali vs. Inoki, Butterbean's entire career, Patterson-Rademacher, the Tyson-McNeeley megafight, etc., etc.

It's a business, and people box, ultimately, to make money. I feel pretty safe in saying George profited from this circus, as have many others who ran with the clowns in one way or another in their careers.

 

Well said, and I totally agree!

 

period

 

People bash the Patterson-Rademacher fight but if you go back and read about how that fight came out its pretty hard to sit on your high horse and look down on it.

Rademacher got a lot of people to believe in him and got some serious financial backing to offer Patterson the largest purse any fighter had been paid in 30 years. It would be another 15 years before anyone made as much again.

I an Olympic champion walked up to ANY heavyweight champion in history and said "I'll guarantee you an astronomical payday to fight me" and actually does it do you think they would turn it down? Not likely.

Its called prizefighting for a reason and Patterson would have been an idiot to walk away from that kind of easy money.

I dont really see any problem with the McNeeley fight either except for the way it ended. Tyson had been away from the sport for three years and wasnt even allowed to train much, if at all, in prison. Its unrealistic to expect him to have his first fight against a top fighter. At the same time he was still the most popular fighter on the planet and there was an enormous amount of curiousity over his comeback. If people want to pay a fortune to watch your comeback fight why wouldnt you take that route?

 

I think the point of Foreman vs. the Toronto Five was for George to get press. He likely thought he was going to KO all five easily. George was appearing in a lot of mainstream TV shows around that period - Six Million Dollar Man and Sanford & Son come to mind - and was really trying to boost his public image. Unfortunately Toronto backfired on him.

George should have taken on Boone Kirkman in a real 10-round fight in April 75. He then should have fought similar guys every 2 months before fighting Lyle. Such a scenario would have forced an Ali rematch.

 

George was kinda "out of his mind" at the time and needed to prove himself somehow....in his his own, rather comical way.