What was Wilder's signature performance?

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What was Wilder's signature/best performance?

  1. Stiverne 1

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  2. Ortiz 1

    44.0%
  3. Fury 1

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  4. Breazeale

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  5. Ortiz 2

    3.6%
  6. Fury 3

    13.1%
  7. Helenius

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  8. Other?

    6.0%
  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought the Arreola fight was a pretty impressive performance.
     
  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are correct Moorer was just inducted, I also don't follow the HOF closely, but it probably also rests on him starting out as a Light Heavyweight where he made a string of WBO title defences (not that the WBO was thought that highly of back then), and as you say, he has that Lineal Championship win over Holyfield.

    I guess that is the other problem is the peak of the other inductees' careers in comparison to Wilder:
    Moorer started out as a Light Heavy and became Lineal Champion by beating Holyfield.
    Wladimir was so dominant many consider him to have started a new lineage.
    Vitali was also awarded a new lineage by The Ring (though that has kind of been brushed under the carpet) and was seen as the man of the division when active.
    Holyfield - cruiserweight legend, undisputed heavyweight champion, four time champion, etc. etc.
    Bowe - undisputed champion, Holyfield trilogy
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They've all got impressive accomplishments to greater or lesser degrees but so does Wilder. As someone pointed out to me, Norton got in without being a lineal champ, Vitali's generally not considered one today and Moorer probably doesn't strike most as a Hall of Famer intuitively.

    Whether Wilder gets in may be contingent on external factors: does he continue to damage his record? Does Fury beat Usyk? Does Fury retire unbeaten? Will Anderson or Torrez surpass Wilder? If the answers to these questions are no, yes, yes and no, then Wilder's position strengthens massively and vice versa.
     
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  4. steviebruno

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    Stiverne 2. Just the attitude and energy that he brought. He was electric that night.
     
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  5. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can’t agree here mate, that version of Stiverne was absolutely dreadful (wasn’t Wilder’s fault). It’s got to be the first Ortiz fight for me, followed by the rematch and the Fury trilogy. The Breazeale and Helenius knockouts would be next alongside his draw with Fury (who was not near his best).
     
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  6. BCS8

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    I think the best Wilder was the one that got stopped in Fury 3. He looked stronger and more determined than ever and damn nearly settled Fury's hash for good. Ortiz was his best win but I personally don't rate old AF Ortiz that highly and Wilder's win in that one was tarnished by the ultra long break he got to clear his head from Ortiz' punches.
     
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  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I thought he was good against Fury 3.
     
  8. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    Not his best performarnce, his signature KO.
     
  9. steviebruno

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    That's your opinion. IMO, the Stiverne 2 Wilder embodied his entire persona.
     
  10. northpaw

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    Stiverne I. He actually "outboxed" for the majority of the fight. He didn't win with his power, he won with lateral movement. And then that version of Wilder disappeared into the mist...............to never be seen again.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    That was definitely a stand out performance simply for the fact he didn't just get out boxed for periods and relied on his power. Maybe that was because he was facing a fighter who he had a 6 inch reach advantage over who was a natural counter puncher, who had rhabdomyolysis or that Wilder injured his right bicep so was forced to not rely on the big right hand and so for once had to commit to boxing rather than looking for a KO.

    It's a shame really he clearly had a lot natural physical talent with his height, reach, speed and of course power but he never had the right temperament to make the most of that ability and combine technical skills along with it. But then I guess that's what makes the special fighters special, they not only have talent but the mindset to become great.
     
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  12. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I can agree with that, just stating that Stiverne was absolutely dreadful and had barely fought. That isn’t an opinion, that’s a fact. I think most heavyweights in the top 30 would have cut through him with ease.
     
  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "who had rhabdomyolysis or that Wilder injured his right bicep"

    Both the typical sort of excuses fighters always make that hold zero weight.

    I thought his schooling of Arreola was better but it didn't have the same significance.
     
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  15. heerko koois

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    :eaea::pipi
     
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