What was Wilder's signature performance?

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What was Wilder's signature/best performance?

  1. Stiverne 1

    8.3%
  2. Ortiz 1

    44.0%
  3. Fury 1

    17.9%
  4. Breazeale

    7.1%
  5. Ortiz 2

    3.6%
  6. Fury 3

    13.1%
  7. Helenius

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Other?

    6.0%
  1. Impulse_0

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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe they were just excuses for their performances, but Stiverne was hospitalised for 2 days after the fight and Wilder has a history of bicep injuries he suffered a bicep injury vs Arreola too and had a bicep injury before the first Fury fight.
     
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  3. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Breazeale.

    As to Ortiz part I, he should thank the referee and the doctor.
    The victory with Stiverne part I is like the victory of Dubois with Miller. The second?...lol.
    With Fury he lost all three bouts.

    For the rest it's enough to go to Boxrec and scan his poor resume.
     
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  4. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Stiverne 1, which is pretty pathetic when you think back on it.
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess that is kind of the problem. It should be Ortiz 1 as many of us have voted. But the fight has a massive asterisks against it.
     
  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Stiverne 2
    There he showed that the knockout in their first fight was not due to his injured hand :)
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is his greatest ever win

    Over a fighter who despite having over 350 amateur fights never medalled at any of the major champions like the Olympics or World Amateur Championships

    Who has beaten a grand total of one world champion in their entire pro career and that champion was a champion in name only because they won the vacant belt on a freak leg injury and then promptly lost it in their first defence to a 15-0 AJ via KO2

    To be fair, that's only one less world champion than The Dosser has beat in 47 fights albeit The Dosser's other one was shot to hell

    And The Dosser had to cheat like crazy to secure said win

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    This is The Dosser's second best ever win

    Who along with the only world champion Ortiz ever beat Charles Martin is one of the worst HW champions of all time

    Stiverne making a slug slow way past prime 40 y/o Ray Austin look like a prime Pep or SRR.

    The commentary is scathing of Stiverne

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    The Dosser outboxing giant penguin Stiverne who has lead feet, a short reach and a head which is a magnet for right hands ie. tailor-made for The Dosser is supposed to be impressive? Really? And that was a sick Stiverne at that


    ''The only guy he [Stiverne] has on his resume is Chris Arreola. That's it! And then I got to give my man Ray Austin some credit. He was 40 something and still whipping his ass all the way until he got clipped in the 11th round (actually it was the 10th). And a guy that's 40 something staying in there.. If Stiverne was the real deal he didn't suppose to stay in there that long with him.''

    --Deontay Wilder

    Here's Wlad icing a prime Austin in two rounds without intentionally throwing a single right hand the entire fight. Wlad was crucified for facing a prime Austin who hadn't lost in six years and was his mandatory challenger, a fight he was forced to take

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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His best win is Ortiz but his best performance is Breazeale
     
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  9. TFP

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    he did look genuinely dangerous in the 'fight' against Fraudley. even accepting that much of the danger was likely to Wilder himself, the ref, or even a spectator, the power in those windmills was truly chilling. human skulls aren't meant to get in the way of missiles like that.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Stiverne2 could be classed as his main highlight reel performance albeit the opponent had deteriorated significantly and didn't deserve to be there, much like several others who put up a half decent fight.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Speaking of the mighty Stiverne

    Let's rewind to what The Dosser had to say about fighters ''making excuses'' about losses

    WARNING! I would strongly advise you to put on your irony face masks on before reading this to protect you from a lethal dose of irony



    ‘I consider him a sore loser,’ Wilder said about Stiverne ahead of their rematch in late 2017.

    ‘I tell people all the time before I fight them, I let the fighters know, l let the fans know, don’t make excuses for my wins when I win.

    ‘They did just that. Everybody’s gonna have an excuse. The thing about it is, nobody wants to hear an excuse once you lose.

    ‘When you lose, you lose. Deal with it.

    ‘But if it’s an excuse that actually occurred, keep it to yourself and amongst your team.

    ‘Go back into the gym and work on that. Because people don’t wanna hear that when you lose.

    ‘I think that’s the thing with Stiverne – he talked so much, he promised so much and didn’t deliver none of it. And for that reason, he’s bitter.’
     
  12. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Can we all agree that Stiverne's "statement" is top five single greatest trolling moments of boxing history?

    His statement after losing to Wilder:

    "I wish to apologize to my fans and supporters for sending an impostor into the ring when I challenged for the world title against Deontay Wilder for the world title in my last fight."

    "That was not me but a shadow of myself. A fraud a faker. Someone else. My mind was not attached to my body. My heart was not in the fight. I was there in name only. Following the bout I searched my soul and vowed I would either never fight again or dedicate my life - as never before- to regaining my world heavyweight title. I decided to go after the championship. With every ounce of my being I have dedicated myself to this comeback. I have worked spiritually, mentally, personally and physically to this goal."

    "I have gone to the mountains, the desert, dieted, lived a life of sacrifice and deprivation to mold myself into a fighting machine. I have boxed a thousand rounds, run hundreds of miles and worked my body into the greatest shape of my career in pursuit of my world heavyweight title."

    "My frustration and anger are at the bursting point. I have worked my body into a machine of destruction.' Thousands of sit ups, push ups, tons of weights lifted, dozens of sparring partner battered and beaten, endless days in the gym and hundred of miles run. I am crazed to get back in the ring and redeem myself - and regain my heavyweight championship of the world"

    All that and his fat ass shows up heavier than ever for a payday. Pure trolling at its finest. Pretty sure he had pizza in his mouth when he wrote it in crayon.

    For pure audacity trolling I still like Peter McNeeley and the "cocoon of horror" he was going to wrap Mike Tyson in.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: I thought you made that up but it's actually a real quote :facepalm:

    His ''I'm here to chop your head off'' line is his finest moment :lol:

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  14. BlackDog

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    The battle is just beetwen Ortiz 1 and Fury 1.

    I choose Fury 1 because end of the day Tyson proof himself 10 x more than Luis Ortiz and in their first fight with Wilder he was really close to lose it.

    Ortiz 1 is his best win.

    Some ppl choose Wilder vs Stiverne but be honest. Bermane was just perfect matchup for Deontay. Slow on feet, 20 cm shorter guy who looks best with Arreola because he dont need to chase him and he comes to his counter himself.

    Some say Fury 3. For me that fight was almost soo bad as fight nr 2 for Wilder. Except round nr 1 and this one punch on forehead which give him 2 knockdown and some time Wilder also quick become wobbled hard, got blood in his ears and react like zombie.
    Only difference is bad shape from fat Gypsy.

    Soo for me Fury 1 and Ortiz 1.
    But for sure if we talking about winning Luis Ortiz 1. Hard fight with massive problems but he win.
     
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure about Breazeale. Wilder was getting bullied in the corner by Breazeale who himself is very limited. Though it was certainly the most definitive performance he had given!
    interesting break down
     
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