What was worse? The headbutts or the cheap shot combo?

easily the headbutt. mayweather didnt do anything illegal. ortiz was too apologetic and was in ***** mode and got pieced up for it. its supposed to be a "fight".

 

The headbutts looked like they were apart of Ortiz' gameplan. He planned to try and rough up Mayweather and take his spirit away. Unfortunately for him, that only pissed off Mayweather.

In actuallity, the opening Mayweather took was brilliant. Strike when your opponent least suspects it.

 

This :deal.

 

When have you seen a headbutt like that? Which fight are you referring to? So if we are in the middle of a fight and I drop my hands, then I should expect my opponent not to punch?

 

There was like 5 headbutts throughout the fight. Ortiz easily.

Mayweathers shot was cheap but took advantage of a situation. I would of done the same after the blatant headbutts.

 

You must hate a lot of former champions. :rofl

 

Premeditated?? hahaha, how so? a boxer, during the break was thinking about punching his opponent when time resumes......laughable....Ortiz knew exactly what he was doing and had been doing it the whole fight! Floyd knew exactly what he was doing....he was in a fight...Cortez said time in, they touched gloves for the third time and Floyd put his guard up..its Ortiz's own fault he failed to realize Money meant business

 

Ortiz's headbutt was borderline insanity and absolutely ridiculous, but I took it to be the spontaneous reaction of an immature, inexperienced and frustrated young fighter trying desperately to put some hurt on his opponent.

What makes Mayweather's cheap shots worse was the deceit. This was not a wild, emotional reaction in the heat of the moment and instantly regretted. This was a cold, calculated, ruthless and savage action, permitted by the fact that Floyd turned in a WWE-calibre acting performance of apology and reconciliation to ensure that Ortiz was wholly unprepared for two vicious, fight-ending suckerpunches.

I don't blame Mayweather for retaliating to an unprovoked assault, but to keep on pretending what he did was whiter-than-white is infantile. It was understandable, but it was ****ing nasty anyway.

 

Nonsense. Absolute fantasy, in fact. I don't know if the problem is with your eyes or brain, but there's definitely something gone badly wrong if you don't see Floyd and Ortiz up close with each other without either taking a fighting stance, before Mayweather cold-clocks him. Honestly, I'm not even remotely interested in debating this if you are in the mood to deny very, very clear video evidence. Floyd Jr himself wouldn't deny that he walked up to Ortiz and listened to his apologies before sucker-punching him. No offence man, you're a good poster and all, but I'm not getting drawn into a protracted debate with someone who has such a pre-programmed agenda on this one issue. To pretend that Floyd didn't deceive Ortiz by getting right up close to accept the apology and then lashing out is nonsensical to me, it 1000% clearly happened exactly like that and I really don't believe even Floyd himself would try to deny the reality, so I can't for the life of me work out why you are trying to do so. :huh

 

Your not supposed to punch when time was called, again some of you just dont get it your man love for Floyd is that much.

Cortez counted Ortiz out reached the count 10.....

when he called time there was 11 seconds left on the clock...

you mean to tell me, that an apology, two hugs, and two cheap shots took place in one second?

The bell never sounded to end the round, meaning when Cortez said lets go time was not in

 

PS: I hope I've not given anyone the wrong impression with this post - I do not think Mayweather should be condemned for what he did. He was the one who was the victim of a crazy unprovoked attack from Ortiz, so even though it's a pretty unsavoury side of boxing, it's completely understandable that he chose to retaliate. A different fighter would have let the referee dispense justice and then got back to the business of fairly and emphatically punishing his opponent and winning the fight, but if a guy's mentality is to foul back viciously when fouled, then he can't be condemned for that really. This is boxing, not beach volleyball. It's a hurt business. However, there's a difference between thinking something understandable and thinking something worthy of praise. What Mayweather did was wrong and it was nasty, but in this instance I have no real complaint with it (other than with people who deny this, which is bogus).

 

There were 3 other attempts to headbutt, before the last one Popkins. It WAS premeditated. He had been trying it the whole fight. So Ortiz had a "spontaneous reaction" on 4 separate occasions?

Ortiz did not regret ****. That apology was as fake as can be. He was just trying to save face because he got red handed.

Fight was called back on. **** hugging that dirty piece of ****. Anybody in that position would have knocked his block off. And Mayweather was not apologizing, his guard was up and he had a disgusted look on his face.

Duran would have punched him in the nuts and you know it. :deal