What welterweights would you pick to beat the Duran of the first Leonard fight?

Irrelevant. The issue was Leonard's style. He fought in the same style in both fights.

 

Hey no worries, i accept that there are two distinct points of view on this one and i respect yours mate. You're a fine poster and i enjoy your reads.

Merry Christmas :drink

 

:nut

Easily handling??

Here is what I actually said:

Someone completely misquoting someone else in order to win an argument is to be taken even less seriously.

 

In pretty much every fight he had in his professional career?

 

He did it much more often than that.

 

Sure. But I also made allowances for that Holmes was further from his prime and lasting four rounds. Anyhow, you do have point. It was lazy of me to exagerrate.

But still, the confidence you place in what is essentially speculation is really silly. And you have the same confidence concerning just about every loss Duran suffered. No matter how clear it was. Taken together that's a new kind of silly.

For the record, I'm just as unconvinced by Tyson fan boys claiming without even the slightest doubt that a prime Tyson would have beaten Lewis and Holyfield. And for those who'd go as far as claiming it's not even open for serious debate... You get the picture, I hope. I really hope.

 

Well things sure changed in the Dooran rematch

Winners are grinners --->

:good

 

Agreed. But I wanted to give that confused chap a specific example to track down, and that fight is an especially good example of it IMO.

 

Are you alright?

 

When it comes to SRL, well he beat everyones favourite mate. Duran, Hearns and Hagler. He's going to pay for this with many, and i am sure you see plenty of places where he does. He has the ability to decimate an otherwise balanced and measured poster.

:good

 

I'm fine, are Paccy steriod claims getting to you a bit?

 

Fine.

I can't really give my own opinion without suggesting that I believe it, can I? That's sort of what an opinion is. If I sounded really uncertain of it, it wouldn't be my opinion.

:huh You don't know me, and you have read me making comment about one solitary Duran loss.

Again, it is a new kind of silly to either lie or twist matters as you please.

I get the picture that you are not very tolerant of anyone who thinks differently from you.

I think 1987 Tyson stops any version of Holyfield, because as I have already explained with the Tarver-Jones example (I did not score Tarver-Jones 1 for Jones), changing the circumstances of a fight can impact on the result immeasurably.

 

SRL is one of my favourite fighters of all-time. I rate him unbelievably highly and my posting history will verify this.

However, my affection for him still does not alter this crystalline scientific fact:

Duran beat the best SRL. SRL did not beat the best Duran.

Merry Xmas to all

 

Not really, I'm on steroids myself and I'm glad they are getting some publicity. Very underrated drug in my opinion.