What were Gene Tunney's weights in the 5 Greb fights?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by dempsey1234, Dec 19, 2016.


  1. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,764
    270
    Jun 25, 2012
    Greb Tunney
    1- 162¼ 174½

    2- 165½ 174

    3- 171½ 175

    4- 166 175

    5- 167½ 181
     
  2. blackhercules

    blackhercules Active Member banned Full Member

    531
    169
    Nov 13, 2016
    Um you asked a question and then you give the answer. The point of this is what now?
     
  3. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,764
    270
    Jun 25, 2012
    These wts were in Boxrec and sometimes the wts they announce are not accurate. So if these are inaccurate then somebdy might be able to give the correct wts.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    Tunney wanted the 6th fight. Greb said no way and said something close to you'd knock me out the next time and your much improved.

    The only fight Greb officially won the first fight. You could say Tunney was a little pre-prime in that one, and the damage sustained in round one blinded Tunney for the entire 15 rounds. A film of the first Greb vs Tunney would be great. I've read it was both a punch that caused the damage. Another source said it was a headbutt that caused the

    Given Greb's style and sometimes dirty tactics the issue of a foul, accidental or not remains a possibility.
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    10,974
    5,432
    Feb 10, 2013
    Tunney's weight was not 175 for the fourth Greb fight. Boxrec warrior. LOL. Lets see a source for that. It was a catchweights fight with no weights given. Tunney was estimated to weigh over 20 pounds more than Greb. Nice try moron.

    Also, to Mendoza, Tunney did not want a sixth fight with Greb. Repeating a lie doesnt make it a true, even in your Fox news world. Miami promoters approached Greb to fight Tunney a sixth time. Greb agreed, Tunney rejected Greb as an opponent then pulled out altogether. Thats in my book and cited as well but its too much to ask clowns like you to educate yourself. :)
     
  6. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,764
    270
    Jun 25, 2012
    Greb was the Fritzie Zivic of his time. Greb must've thumbed Tunney, I find it hard to believe that it was a legit punch especially since Greb gave up power for speed.
     
  7. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,764
    270
    Jun 25, 2012
    The professor of many alts, answers, so you're using someone's guess as a fact? Sounds about right, more manure spewing from the all knowing prof of spins and exaggeration. You did claim as a fact that Tunney was a HW, how do you know? Oh, someones guess, oh that's right, sounds offficial haha. Citations I need citations lol

    Oh yes the 6th fight, tell us again o wise one, why Tunney had to even consider a 6th fight with a guy that he had beaten to a pulp. Yessir here again is a prime example of the prof's spins and exaggeration that are in his book he even cites them for you. And you did say, that Tunney had the Dempsey fight and didnt want to jeopardize that fight. Prof, even a brilliant pysstorian as yourself can see that that was a no brainer. Duh, Greb 6th fight or Dempsey fight, probably had Tunney Laffing his a ss off, hard choice. Haha. This and many other laff's await the readers.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    10,974
    5,432
    Feb 10, 2013
    No sources. As I suspected. Another waste of time. So welcome, once again, to my cut and paste skills, its no different than parroting incorrect information on an incorrect website:

    Tunney's weight was not 175 for the fourth Greb fight. Boxrec warrior. LOL. Lets see a source for that. It was a catchweights fight with no weights given. Tunney was estimated to weigh over 20 pounds more than Greb. Nice try moron.

    Also, to Mendoza, Tunney did not want a sixth fight with Greb. Repeating a lie doesnt make it a true, even in your Fox news world. Miami promoters approached Greb to fight Tunney a sixth time. Greb agreed, Tunney rejected Greb as an opponent then pulled out altogether. Thats in my book and cited as well but its too much to ask clowns like you to educate yourself. :)
     
  9. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,764
    270
    Jun 25, 2012
    But prof you did say that you helped Boxrec with some info, why didnt you correct that one, hmmm makes you wonder. See folks here is another prime example of spinning and exaggeration by a noted pysstorian. The prof, himself said Tunney didnt want to jeopardize the Dempsey fight. Again explain why if Tunney had Dempsey on his mind that he had to fight Greb a 6th time, oh yeah Tunney was afraid that Greb might have recovered enough from the beating he took in 5, to take a bigger beating in a 6th fight, yes that makes sense. TUNNEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO ACCEPT OR NOT ANOTHER FIGHT WITH GREB. Greb seems to be the desperate one, I wonder why? I guess there were not many huge money offers so he accepted whatever fights were offered to him. On the other hand Carp, Tunney had other plans that didnt include Greb, the prof cant accept that so he comes up with they were ducking, afraid, running etc.
    Oh and I dont find this a waste of time, I love this, FYI, saying that it's in your book is not proof, since you make so many spins and exaggerations IMO puts some doubt as to what is the truth in your book. You tell me to buy your book cos the answer of why Firpo ran is in there, but I ask you if I do buy your book and find out I was right all along, will you give me a full refund, I think not lol.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    55,255
    10,354
    Jun 29, 2007
    BULL&HIT, Tunney was game for a 6th fight, and why not, he made a mess of Greb. Tunney also offered Wills a fight too. Wills passed. And he also was game for the 3rd fight with Dempsey. Dempsey refused.
    • "That's the last time I'll fight this guy," Greb told Referee George Barton in his dressing room after the fight. "He's getting too big and too strong for me to handle. I could lick him at one time but not anymore. Tunney is really getting good." - Greb
    The Associated Press reported: "Tunney gave Greb as thorough a beating as he has ever received."

    Sure, Greb wanted a 6th fight. LOL.
     
  11. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    10,974
    5,432
    Feb 10, 2013

    Facts are such inconvenient little things to liars such as yourself:

    [url]http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z335/klompton/greb-tunney%206_zpsi6gsoctm.jpg[/url]

    Thats a headline from the sports page of the Miami Herald confirming that Greb had signed to fight Gene Tunney in Miami a sixth time.

    You keyboard warriors think because you have Google you know everything there is to know. You don't. Get out do some actual research if you really want to know this stuff. Trust me its fun and youll open up a whole new world. Or you keep sitting here wasting your time jousting at windmills and pretending that because you have a subscription to the internet you are a historian.
     
    Seamus likes this.
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,721
    29,069
    Jun 2, 2006
    Even for a habitual Pinnochio tall- tail spinner such as Mendoza it would be hard to refute a primary source such as this!
     
    Seamus likes this.
  13. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,764
    270
    Jun 25, 2012
    How very stupid of an elite pysstorian to post only one side, 'er where o where does it say anything about Tunney accepting or the other spin that says he didnt want to jeopardize the dempsey fight. I didnt see it mentioned. Another prime example of the esteemed prof, telling you what to think. It doesnt matter that one side agreed to a fight it only matters if they both agreed, so what's the point, that Greb agreed so what? Greb is the only one agreeing duh!
    I know the post was meant for mendoza
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
  14. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,714
    3,455
    Jan 6, 2007
    Boxrec has statement that Greb turned down a sparring job with Dempsey.....Greb stating that there was no way he could Dempsey in the shape to beat Tunney (fight #1).
     
  15. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    10,974
    5,432
    Feb 10, 2013

    I think you miss the point, the one not on top of your head. Mendoza stated Tunney wanted a sixth fight and Greb wanted none of it. In reality Greb accepted an offer to fight Tunney, Tunney refused asking for an easier opponent and ultimately dropping out of the planned card altogether (Tunney was actually signed first, but Im sure you knew that because your really smart...). So who are you arguing with exactly? Me or Mendoza? Lol, like I said, a dog chasing his tail. You want argue with me to argue. Wouldnt matter if I said the sky was blue, youd argue it was pink. The definition of a troll. By all means, keep it up. it entertains at times like this, sitting and waiting for my chinese food to be done. As soon as its ready Ill forget about you and your post while you sit there anxiously waiting to hang on every word in my next post. Apparently I complete you. Lol.

    Btw is that Johnson-Ketchel post going the way you expected? I wouldnt know, I havent been paying attention. :devil-flip: