What were the expectations for Big George and Smokin Joe?

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali won gold at the Olympics and was expected to do great things. Were George and Joe expected to become as good as they were?
     
  2. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that nobody could imagine how good Ali was going to be. Yes he looked a fast skinny boy with natural ability and strong personality but he became the best heavyweight ever and i think that nobody expected it. Marciano and Louis were jealous like hell.marciano trying to insinuate that his chin was not proven . everybody picked Liston over him except tony galento and a few guys who picked Clay for his great speed and height
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

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    Foreman was definitely not seen as some sort of future ATG. People wrote him off as an inexperienced 1 dimensional young slugger even just before his first title bout.
     
  4. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Marciano jealous but he said Clay was fastest man he ever saw and also said very good things about him!Hi picked Clay over Liston because he know Clay had good chin and was not scared of bully!
    He said that he need someone to prove how great he is and he was right because the first man who really tested Clay was Joe Frazier but Rock was dead to see that!
     
  5. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is simply lie. Stop inventing things.
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  6. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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  7. Fergy

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    From what I can gather, Foreman wasn't rated all that spectacularly in his early days as pro.
    Even with all the kos, im not sure that people were thinking that he'd be the guy to trouble Joe, never mind destroy him!
     
  8. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't change the topic.
    I repeat... Where is the part where Rocky said that Clay had a good chin? Watch the 1:21 part of my video.
    Rocky said " l don't really know how good he is because he has never been hit in the chin by a good punch"

    Stop lying please
     
  9. janitor

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    In fairness to Marciano, he did not have a crystal ball to see into the future.

    He was trying to make predictions about an unorthodox, and still relatively unproven fighter.

    It was far from clear how things would turn out.
     
  10. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Stop bull**** he said that he had good chin and he is the best gett a wayer from punches!
    Because he was never hit on the chin until Cooper got him!
     
  11. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you are a pathological liar

    SHOW ME WITH A VIDEO(like i did) WHERE HE SAID THAT CLAY HAD A GOOD CHIN. He said that he was hard to hit clean but it is a totally different thing.
     
  12. SerbianLoudmouth

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  13. Mendoza

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    I think there were viewed as A+ prospects. Foreman won the gold medal at the Olympics on his 25th amateur fight. Frazier was a the sub for the Olympics, but light up Tokyo in route to gold, though he was floored doing isn early match. By the way if anyone has the Frazier Olympic matches, I'd like to see them. The footage I've seen is impressive.
     
  14. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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