What were your scores for these Sven Ottke fights?

Hmm, the Robin Reid fight again. atsch

That fight was a mugging, it was Reid and his corner against everyone else there.

Tillerman the ref isn't it? Pure Pantomime!

He warned Reid for hitting Ottke at one point, hitting him with a correct punch. He was warning all the time Reid put on an attack. Ottke did nothing for round after round. When Tillerman had stopped Reid raising any form of assault, Ottke came back into it.

The worst was still to come, Reid knocked down Ottke and Tillerman ruled it a slip. He then deducted a point from Reid for something or other. It should have been a 10-8 round for Reid instead it probably went 10-8 to Ottke. A 4 point turnaround.

If I was Reid I would have left the ring, except for the purse! Cheating German B'stards.

The sport at one of it's lowest points. Probably one of the worst unified champions ever, he had more gifts than Santa!

 

He was a great amateur; but his style and lack of power didn't carry to the pros very well.

 

Amateur great or not, he was a joke in that fight mate, a double act him and Roger Tillerman.

The fact that it was all so obvious that Reid was going to be ripped off is what made it such an entertaining Pantomime. Reid even said to Ottke lets have a rematch in the UK, jokingly. So sorry for him, but really at the end, he knew he would not win, it was one of the biggest farces ever.

Reid was robbed of the WBA and IBF titles that night, to add to the WBC he had already held.

 

I wasn't defending him mate; don't get me wrong. That fight was a travesty. I even read about it here in the states it was so bad.

 

I know!! It betrays a level of devotion that I just cant compete with!:yep

 

Can't remember my exact scores, but I had Reid, Larsen & Brewer beating Ottke. Sven deserved the win in the rest.

 

If I remember in the Reid fight, I thought Reid had won clearly nearly all of the first few\four rounds, but his corner tell him that Ottke is already like a few points up or something. Perhaps the KD round was a little later. Reid should have won the fight in the first half, but he was already behind on the scorecards big time. Then there was the KD point deduction debacle. I think they may have "given" Reid a few of the last lot of rounds that he probably "really did lose" to try and make the scores not look so obvious.

Facts are:

Reid clearly beat Ottke in the majority of the early rounds, some of them very clearly indeed. Ottke was knocked down by a punch and it was called a slip. Reid was constantly warned and docked a point for fighting a clean fight.

 

ottke was so boring...........never seen the end of any of his "fights" .....
after 7 rounds i fell a sleep....

 

Brewster I: 113-116
Brewster II: 116-112
Byron Mitchell: 117-113
Mads Larsen: 115-114
Reid: 112-115
Johnson: 116-112
Branco: 116-112
Starie: 116-113
Markussen: 117-113

 

I remember my cards rather clearly, as these fights are quite frequently discussed over at boxrec.com.

That said, I think in terms of your scoring, you are quite harsh on Ottke, Amsterdam.

Still, he had his fair share of gift decisions. Keeping in mind all the ridiculous point deductions we see in Ottke fights, I'll just give my scores in number of rounds won:

Brewer 8-4 over Ottke (fight 1).

Ottke 7-5 over Brewer (fight 2).

Ottke 7-5 over Mitchell.

Draw 6-6 against Larsen.

Reid 8-4 over Ottke (plus KD).

Ottke 7-4-1 over Johnson.

Branco 6-5-1 over Ottke.

Draw 6-6 against Starie.

Ottke 8-4 over Markussen.

So out of these 9 fights I had Ottke losing 3 times, to Reid, Silvio Branco, and Charles brewer (once), and had him earning 2 draws. He should have been 4-3-2 (or something very similar) instead of 9-0 in these fights.