What were your thoughts on Lewis vs Holyfield 2?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Moggy94, Apr 8, 2021 at 12:33 AM.

  1. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Member Full Member

    Mar 25, 2021
    I've seen some people say Holyfield deserved the win but I don't see it, I believe I had it 116-112 for Lewis but I feel it was a much more exciting fight than people remember it to be. Holyfield was past his prime but I think that's a testament to just how good Holyfield was that at 37 he was competing with a prime Lennox Lewis.

    Also a side question, do you think Holyfield was an underrated power puncher? He was never on the level of guys like Tyson, Foreman, Shavers, Klitschko, Lewis or even Louis or Marciano but do you think he punched harder than guys like Ali and Larry Holmes? What about Frazier too? Holyfield did seem to have more two fisted power than Frazier.
  2. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

    Aug 20, 2013
    I've never really understood this idea that the verdict in the second fight was controversial, either. Seems to be a bit of a myth which keeps growing the more the years roll on. It's only in the last few years that I've heard a noticeable minority claim that Evander got a raw deal.

    From memory I think I had 116-112 as well. Not too different from the score I had for the first fight, but as you say the difference was that the rematch was a much more competitive 116-112. In the first fight Lewis was cruising for the most part, and Holyfield never really got going. Whereas in the rematch Holyfield definitely caused Lewis trouble and gave him some shaky moments when he got right inside and pressured him at close quarters. There were moments where Lewis was having trouble containing Holyfield once he got past the jab and went to work with combinations in close.

    But on the whole I'd say it was still a clear win for Lewis.
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  3. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Be real• Full Member

    Oct 12, 2020
    It was telling to say the least- I expected more out of Lennox in both encounters.
  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    I had Lewis winning a close one in another disappointing fight.

    Some reporters questioned the decision at the time. It's not really revisionism at all. It was always slightly disputed.
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  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    I watched it 3X. I scored twice for Holyfield and once a draw. Regardless of what you think, Holyfield did not get a fair score form the judges because of what happened the first time.
  6. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 6, 2011
    I’ve scored it a draw and for Lennox by 1 round. Close fight, Holyfield made the correct adjustments and made it much more competitive. Lewis did well to regain momentum after a big round 7 from Holyfield and swept 8-11 to put a Holyfield win out of reach without a knockdown on my card
  7. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 11, 2018
    It was closer but it was still clearly Lewis’s fight. I’m a much bigger Holyfield fan but I can’t see more than five rounds for him. Think I scored it 116-112 last time.
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    Holyfield did much better the second time around, but for me, it was still Lewis. I personally could never see it as close as a draw.
    As to the other question, Holyfield could punch. I don't think he was a heavy-handed fighter, but he had lovely timing, quick hands, and really committed to the punch when he wanted to. Also superb balance.
    I'd say he was a very sharp puncher, as opposed to a powerful puncher.
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Holyfield lost the second fight, simple as. He shoulda lost the first but that's an all different story.
  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

    May 8, 2014
    I had Lewis narrowly ahead 7-5. The fight could've been reasonably scored a draw as well.
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  11. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

    Jul 7, 2012
    I thought Lewis won could have dominated the ageing Holyfield if he wanted too.
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  12. Moggy94

    Moggy94 Member Full Member

    Mar 25, 2021

    Do you think Holyfield hit harder than Ali or Holmes?
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    No, I think they're all in the same ballpark, if pure hitting power is the question.
    I think he was a more authoritative puncher than either though, because he sat down on his punches more.
    Just my opinion though.
  14. FuryisGOAT

    FuryisGOAT New Member Full Member

    Feb 26, 2020
    Holyfield won a close fight 7-5.

    they had to give it lewis because of the robbery in the first fight.

    I still say lewis and holyfield are 1-1. And holyfield was past prime and Lewis was prime.
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 4, 2016
    I though that too, I remember when Emanuel Steward was cursing Lewis during the Tyson fight screaming at him that Tyson was ready to go what the hell are you waiting on. He let Tyson hang around for a 2 or 3 more rounds when if he had opened up on him he'd have been gone. I think at times Lewis just went into safety first mode
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