What will Hopkins have to do to beat Joe? and Vice Versa?

No offence mate but don't we have enough threads about this going already?

 

hopkins to win.

draw calzaghe into the pocket by setting traps.

keep calzaghe following into the traps.

lead with the right hand/head/shoulder to tire and slow down calzaghe.

let his hands go and not be conservative in 1 through 6.

plant his feet and let rip with a few bombs , to make calzaghe hesitent and worried about making mistakes.

spoil/maul/tie up/make the fight ugly to throw calzaghe out of a rythem.


calzaghe to win.

box long.

make the fight technical from the outside using his jab.

straighten his punches , dont go for power just point scoring touches.

dont fall in with lead straight lefts , but use his feet to get in and out in balance.

use angles, step off to his right and counter .

look for the lead right hand/head and shoulder charge and step off to the side and not go straight back and counter.

if succesfull with this stick with it through 12 and it will take away virtually everything hopkins can beat him with .

dont go for a commanding performance and take chances just box conservativly stylewise and keep up the steady jab/jab/straight left/step off and dont foloow hopkins into the traps he sets, .

 

hopkins would have to try to land the jab from the outside. circle to the right and throw the straight right, kessler was catching joe every time he through it. when on the inside try to tie joe up, stopping joes work rate.

 

Calzaghe: Just do what he always does

Hopkins: Pray to God he makes him 10 years younger on fight night.

 

Hopkins should be looking to make it rough and land an early headbutt like he did on Wright. When Calzaghe falls in after throwing his left, just basically make it very brutal.

Calzaghe... box on the outside don't let Hopkins destroy the natural rhythm of a fight like he normally does.

 

Hopkins - Fight a very tactical ugly fight, try 2 make Calzaghe seem sloppy like Bika did.

Calzaghe - Don't jump in exposed like he sometimes does. Use work rate & speed 2 out-punch Hopkins

 

Calzaghe: Do what he did against Lacy and Kessler. Sensible, straight punching, and lots of it

Hopkins: A win would be going 12 rounds. Cover up, clinch, headbutt. Anything to make it through

 

Calzaghe to win:

1 - Lead a non full frontal assault with the right jab but a methodical attack ( planned in advance), striking out at the flanks with curved punches on your toes, cutting off any retreat and encircling the enemy. Prove yourself more of an excellent sharpshooter and a brilliant strategist, smacking him fastly n lightly on both cheeks with 3, 4 punches a time, in spite of looking for the death blow(s). Eventually, the accumulation of blows can have his eyes swollen shut and his lips puffy.

2 - Keep up an above average, fast paced fight - Control the rhythm of the fight through constant speed-ups, changeovers and picking up the tempo over and over again so that he has to suck up air under the awful pressure and can never seize the initiative or react.

3 - Unleash the full potential of your natural ability and variety of punches, wheeling yourself always into positions where you can connect and he can not, making him produce no evidence whatsoever that he was superior technically or strategically.

4 - Make best use of your faster hands and feet - Catch him off guard time and time again with unexpected, sudden explosions of flashes of higher intensity and twist out, pull yourself out of his grip in continuous back and forth n circular motion.

Hopkins to win:

1 - Allow him 2 seize the initiative and turn the odds of manhandling against himself, spying your chances with cold calculation and intelligence. Stay outside where your strength, expert shooting ability and knowledge of timing will put you at decided advantages. Fake with a lead, turn half a step in his direction and run smack into him when he's retreating but don't tire yourself with too much feints. Let him to lead to that point of ambush, countering his countermove and showing to be too clever to be outwitted.

2 - Control the pace of the fight with concussive blasts n smashing his rib cage that will never let him slip into fifth gear, breaking his action and slowing down the tempo to a down tempo and bring yourself back always under control. Never give the impression of struggling beneath his blows - shooting and chopping through his faster, numerous shots with fewer, harder, sharper and more eye catching counter-shots of your own, working like clockwork, by the book. Decelerate your own heart beat and breathing on the inside and whenever you manage to drive him to the corners and against the ropes.

3 - Psyche him out early, making him miss, messing him up inside n tightening the grip, lulling him into lowering his guard and setting traps to catch him out so that he decreases his own workrate. Use his motion and balance to knock him sideways too.

4 - Methodically wear him down with adjusted brawling tactics, bringing discomfort hard enough and long enough so that he loses his composure and decides 2 run into higher risks and trade blow for blow at close range and out of control.

 

All Calzaghe has to do is stay active all fight long...throw around 80 punches per round while moving and Hopkins is basically done. B-Hop simply cannot keep up a good pace all fight long......

 

Calzaghe landed some 20% of his 1000 punches thrown against MK ( 100 per round, let's say 80 per round this time) but he won basically b.c. he connected more than Kessler did. I know CompuBox stats and volume punching mean a hell of a lot these days to make an argument for a fighter but it's still down to the scoring system ( 10 points to the winner of the round and 9 to the loser)... If Joey throws a lot in that steady rhythmic pace, that doesn't mean that he'll keep Bernard from throwing and connecting... I guess both will be logically reluctant to approach too quickly and that when the necessary step has been taken, each subsequent stride will become easier. And that's exactly where my doubt arises - Tito was supposed to land a meaningful left hook only once but he would not; Antonio was supposed to overwhelm him with longer, heavier punches but he was rocked in the fifth; Winky was almost sure to jab him to win a comfortable decision but he couldn't let his right hand go and was reachin with the left - I personally see Calzaghe taking a lot of right hands before he gets his left counter in if that is worth for something...

 

Well dont post on it mary

 

I just rewatched the calzaghe-Kessler fight the other day and I think Bhop has a better chance than I did before. I think a younger Bhop from around the echols fight would have beaten Joe.


The biggest thing Joe has is stamina, output and angles. His shots arent that hard, with Bhops defense not only will he not be taking that many shots but they wont hurt him much as he keeps his chin tucked well and they are arm punches to begin with.


Hops is good at throwing people off their game. If he can get Calzaghe to throw less punches he can win the fight. He got Winky to throw less punches (but Winky was also out of shape).

Calzaghe leaves himself open for counters ALOT. He puts together some lazy combos which I think hopkins can slip them and come back with a straight right counter.

I think Hopkins can win as long as he has enough energy and stamina to last and if he can get Calzaghe off his game plan and throwing less shops and countering them.