What will you guys think if Wlad ends up fighting Haye instead of Vitali?

What a ****ing joke! The bums stand in front of him and he takes all night to knock them out. Lets face it, the true fans of boxing like you really want to see Klitschko play patty-cake and huggy-bear. And those phony fans in New York who booed his magnificent performance against Ibragimov, well, they don't know the first thing about boxing! :bart

 

Well Haye was unified cruiserweight champion but according to the Klit-ites he almost lost to Mormeck, lost to old man Thompson and has a horrible glass jaw.

I wonder just how good an opponent Haye will become IF VITLAY or WALDO manages to beat him :think

The circle jerk we had after the bore-fest Sultan fight and the crappy performance against Rahman was bad enough, imagine what it'll be like if he beats someone that actually turns up to fight :yikes

 

You are trippin.

If that rumor is correct...it proves that the KLIT-FLiP is by design.

The KLIT-FLiP is fact.

 

I don't understand this clowning about the Ibragimov lost, some of you haters are SO desperate you guys actually make it look like Wladimir lost that fight.

Sure it was boring, SO ****ING WHAT?, he still got the victory, the fight was boring indeed but that doesn't completely ruin him as some here try to make it look.

Just look at his KO ratio, Wladimir brings the KOs and people like to see that. If he didn't get it once or twice, SO WHAT?, it's not the end of his career.

Fact is people still tune-in to watch his fights because they know that a KO is nearly guaranteed and if not then it's not the end of his career.

 

Why?, you're going to say he's avoiding Arreola now?

 

Hell no.

It proves that they are playing games with this musical opponents crap.

 

I don't know about other Wladimir fans but I'm also a Haye fan so I wouldn't really say stuff like Haye sucks or any of that. Though I'll be honest, as Wladimir was, that Haye needs some more fights to be ready as he hasn't done anything in the division anyway.

But if he wants it so bad then bring it on, I know Wladimir wants it and fears no one in the division. If Haye loses then Wladimir gets yet another good win against a good opponent. It won't be rated as an ATG opponent because there are no ATG opponents in the division and the Klitschkos can't be held responsible for that.

 

Wrong, It proves that they're trying to bring the best fights available out there.

 

Totally true and I've said the exact same thing in such discussions many times. Notice how there's a lot of attention on Toney even though it's obvious he's a no-hoper in the division.

 

No buddy. Unfortunately for ESB, I'm not going to do a Kobe and post all of my info that I'm not at liberty to discuss...and I don't expect you to take my word for it either.

However they are using the KLIT-FLiP to their advantage. Look at Righty's post earlier about all of the flips already...if you don't want to call it the KLIT-FLiP, don't. They are still doing it...and they have for a long time, this is just a different variation of it, and a lot more blatant than in the past.

 

I don't think Wlad is avoiding Haye as such it's just that the way things worked out that VIt was first. I think Haye actually wanted to fight Vit first as he says he's the tougher challenge.

 

Vlad has zero reason to avoid Haye. Vitali or Vlad will knock Haye out, so it does not matter to me who fights Haye. Before Haye, all I read was how Peter was the best out there and that he would knock out both Vitali and Vlad in one night, but that did not happen. So, now it is Haye the haters are claiming is the best heavyweight in the world. After Haye is knocked out it will be some other made up heavyweight.

 

No, it's the simple fact that a 46 year old Holyfield has had 2 recent title shots, one in which most people believe he was jobbed and should have won.
Valuev, who you just mentioned, is not recognised as being talented not because he's not American, but because he should have lost to a Holyfield that's in his mid 40's.

Hasim Rahman recently fought again for the title, despite it being clear as day he was done a couple of years ago. (I don't care about the substitute ****, he was still given a chance ahead of many other fighters)

Maskaev recently held a title, in his late 30s, when in his prime years he was no more than a half decent contender level fighter.

Tony Thomson recently had a title shot, despite being 38 and never really having done anything. And did nothing in the ring against Wlad either. (yes, I saw the fight, and I swear his feet must have been nailed to the floor, and his gloves glued to his ears).

Shannon "never really was that good in the first place, but is now much much heavier, slower, unfitter and worse than at his best" Briggs recently had a title belt. (even though I still think the WBO is crap).


When guys that were no more than solid, contender at best, level fighters are coming back in their mid to late 30's and winning belts, that tells you the current crop of fighters are ****.

Plain and simple. That's not Wlad's fault, without a doubt.

But don't build up guys like Austin and Brock to make Wlad look better. Those guys were limited, and didn't even try to win IMO.

Guys like Golota, Mercer, Ruddock etc - one step away from the very best - would have absolutely ****ing destroyed those guys when anywhere near their best. (Please mention Mercer as a good win for Wlad, please...)