Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Kamikaze, Apr 24, 2021.
I don't think they'd fight at HW, so unrated.
I agree that they wouldn't fight at HW, but Burns was definitely more skilled than Wilder.
Right if you think any boxer from the 1800's or early 1900's is more skilled than Wilder then please stage off the drugs. Wilder has little skill compared to any legit heavyweight champion from the 1970's to the early 2000's but he is light years above any fighter from Burns era.
Wilder is no where near the skill level of those earlier guys ,you have to know what to look for!
I don't have to "think" he's less skilled, we have enough Burns footage to conclude that he was more skilled than Wilder.
Corbett was 6' 1", he would not need PEDs to exceed 200 lbs.
He was not far from it at his heaviest, & I am not aware he was ever overweight.
Weight training would take him there.
Many cheat & lie about using PEDs, many do not.
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Corbett weighed 196 lbs against Jeffries if I remember correctly and he was never in bad shape. Him being over 200 lbs with modern training isn't out of question at all.
That said, I wouldn't fancy him fighting at HW today. He'd be better at CW and LHW.
Yes he would! But you found a heavier weight than I did. It would be extremely simple to make HW fit with just a little weight training, the question is would he be better in the 220's at HW-which if he really hit the weights & scientifically, he likely could achieve all naturally.
The answer is likely no-he could so that, but I do not think he had the natural musculature & bone structure of Jeffries.
Actually when he was in the 170s. with day before weigh ins he could easily have made MW-he might have started there.
It was completely false that he would need PEDs to get over 200-or well above-but he likely would be best served with his frame fighting up to CW later in his career, which means he could be up to even ~ 220 before de & re-hydration!
So easily be well over 200 day of the fight----> as a CW.
The bottom line, is that we don't know what these guys really weighed.
As stated previously, I get the impression that Corbett was honest in this aspect.
However I would not trust Fitzsimmons as far as I could throw him, and I don't even know whether I would be throwing 155lbs or 180lbs!
If they're lucky.