What would Deontay Wilder have to achieve to be considered the greatest heavyweight boxer ever ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WillieWild, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. WillieWild

    WillieWild Member booted Full Member

    Aug 3, 2019
    He says he wants to be the GOAT what must be done to make that a reality ?
  2. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    beat joshua/ruiz 2 winner, fury in the rematch and then go on a tear. If he can get to 20 defenses of the wbc and unify the other belts and continue to knock guys out he will have a case especially if he remains undefeated

    he has some guys moving up the ranks now that would make good scalps

    I dont see him running the table but that would be my view on how he does it. louis, ali, forman, holmes, tyson all set a high bar
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  3. LeeD1982

    LeeD1982 Active Member Full Member

    Feb 25, 2019

    1. Fury
    2. Joshua/Ruiz
    3. Building a time machine back to the 90s
    4. … then the 70s
  4. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    It ain’t happening

    1. He is too protected to take the challenges required
    2. Even if he changes promotional outfit now he does not have the time or skill to build up the required wins.

    He is 34 now and his best wins are over a 50 year old Cuban and a Rastafarian from Haiti. Both of whom were never a legit champion prior to him beating and whose best wins weren’t even over top 10 opposition
  5. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

    Apr 1, 2018
    He can't.

    He's not technically good enough.

    Doesn't matter if he goes 100 and 0 with 100 knockouts.

    He's a one trick pony and simply can't be considered the greatest ever.

    I think he can possibly become an ATG but he would Need to beat at least a handfull of the best of this era. If he beats AJ, fury, Whyte, ruiz, Parker for example we can talk.

    At this moment his resume is just paper thin, he's a knockout machine but all cans. The only top guy he has fought he failed to beat or knockout so jury is still open on him.

    So yeh possible, but at 34 years old I can't see him securing a legacy.
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    It isn't in his power. The fighters around these days are simply not of the Foreman/Frazier/Norton variety.

    Nor the Schmeling, Baer, Walcott variety.

    Nor of the Murderer's Row/Jeffries variety

    Nor of the Louis/Charles/Walcott/Moore variety.

    All of that being said, he might want to start by beating the best of this day, which would be Fury/Joshua/Ruiz. Thus far he does not have a single king-making win, and no, a 40 (or older) steroids cheat with high blood pressure and an unimpressive record does not count.
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  7. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Become undisputed.
    Have a lengthy reign as undisputed. As in, the longest reign ever with the most defenses.
  8. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Member Full Member

    Jul 10, 2019
    The GOAT discussion is an fans opinion only, no one will ever truly become the GOAT. The only thing he can be is the best of his era, and the only way to do that is beat the best in the division (fury, Joshua, Whyte, Usyk, Ruiz)
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  9. quest00

    quest00 New Member Full Member

    Feb 1, 2015
    You guys are AMAZING. I truly hope he knocks out Fury in the rematch then does the same to the AJ/Ruiz winner, then what will yall have to say. Once again when Wilder fought Stiverne, Stiverne WAS a champion and a top fighter at heavyweight, but you guys conveniently choose to forget that. That stiverne beats your beloved chisora and Whyte. The first Stiverne and Ortiz are indeed good scalps to have on his record.
  10. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Feb 26, 2009
    I don't think there is enough great fighters now for him to accomplish that. He is about 10 years from doing that if he keeps winning and beats up everyone in a 10 year span by knockout and retires in about 2030.
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  11. don owens

    don owens Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 5, 2005
    learn to be a boxer. fight legitimate boxers.
  12. WillieWild

    WillieWild Member booted Full Member

    Aug 3, 2019
    I'm sorry but Stiverne turned into a one-hit wonder after Arreola who he beat next ? NOBODY! And he fought Wilder the whole 12 rounds scared ! and unfortunately Luis Ortiz won't go down in history
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    reincarnation as cassius clay.
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte #CLEARED like I said he would be Full Member

    Jul 31, 2018
    After many minutes of pondering and maximising the use of my 126 IQ I’ve found a way...

    Wilder must kill 7.5 Billion people leaving only his most loyal fans alive

    I guess in his eyes the ends justify the means to become the GOAT
  15. Wagoat

    Wagoat Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2018
    If he wants to be the best of all time i can give a list of things to do how he becomes that

    First beat Tyson fury in a rematch by ko
    And improve to 43-0-1 42ko
    Then fight Joshua/ruiz winner but the winner has to fight the IBF mandotory and the WBA mandotory first or the titles Will be stripper so at first it is not possible
    So fight 2 top contenders in that time need to be top quality if he wants to be the best So in wbc rankings at that moment that would be dillian whyte and Adam kownacki
    Lets say he fights dillian first and wins by ko
    And improves to 44-0-1 43 ko then kownacki and be 45-0-1 44 ko
    After that by then the winner of joshua/ruiz would have Made their mando defence against pulev and usyk and i expect them to would have won those matches
    Then he can unify against Joshua/ruiz
    And then if he wins by ko he becomes undisputed and 46-0-1 45 ko’s
    The face a rematch and win again
    47-0-1 46 ko’s
    after that fight contenderr after contender after contender and keep winning on ko and fight the loser of Joshua/ruiz match also and a 3th fight with Tyson fury
    Example like this

    48-0-1 47 ko’s Against miller
    49-0-1 48 ko’s against Parker
    50-0-1 49 ko’s against hunter
    51-0-1 50 ko’s Against joyce
    52-0-1 51 ko’s Against Tyson fury x3
    53-0-1 52 ko’s against Filip hrgovic
    54-0-1 53 ko’s against Joshua/ruiz loser
    55-0-1 54 ko’s against tony yoka
    56-0-1 55 ko’s against usyk
    57-0-1 56 ko’s against oscar rivas
    58-0-1 57 ko’s against Ivan dychko
    59-0-1 58 ko’s against dillian whyte x2
    60-0-1 59 ko’s against Daniël dubois
    61-0-1 60 ko’s against romanov ( who ko’d him in amateurs)
    62-0-1 61 ko’s Against oleksandr zakhozhyi
    63-0-1 62 ko’s Against vlad sirenko
    64-0-1 63 ko’s Against bakhodir jalolov
    65-0-1 64 ko’s Against trey lippe morisson
    66-0-1 65 ko’s Against Sonny conto
    67-0-1 66 ko’s Against arslanbek makhmudov
    68-0-1 67 Ko’s s against efe ajagba
    69-0-1 68 ko’s against agit kabayel
    70-0-1 69 ko’s against junior fa

    If for example build up a record like this
    Than he would be by far the best to ever grace the ring not only as a heavy but also p4p
    A record like that would be insane
    But i highly doubt he Will ever get close to a record like this

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