What would it take to be ranked above Vitali?

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  1. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In your view, short of beating him, what would a boxer, Haye or Povetkin for example, have to do to be ranked above Vitali?
     
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  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Beat someone better than Corrie Sanders
     
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  3. mike_bngs

    mike_bngs Active Member Full Member

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    Not losing to the only real name on your resume.
     
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  4. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    If he beats another two top contenders I'd put him above Vitali based purely on Vitali's weak recent opposition. Right now he is below Vitali and justifiably so.


    and the gap between the two is closing by the day.
     
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  5. ALTitude

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    Force Wlad into retirement.
     
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  6. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye;
    Barrett TKO5
    Valuev MD12
    Ruiz TKO9
    Harrison TKO3
    Wlad L 12
    Chisora TKO5


    Vitali;

    Peter RTD8
    Gomez TKO9
    Arreola RTD10
    Johnson UD12
    Sosnowski KO10
    Briggs UD12
    Solis KO1
    Adamek TKO10
    Chisora UD12
     
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  7. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rank the victories in order of worth.
     
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  8. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have one decent win on your resume
     
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  9. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another solid post. I agree. Haye should be ranked 3rd under Vitali, but the two should fight it out to decide the ever-shrinking gap.
     
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  10. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    These first 4 Vitali fights all came in a 13 month period when Haye was finding his feet in the division. Vitali's competition is superior but not by much. If this were a comparison to Wlad's opponents it would be obvious but with Vitali it's alot closer.
     
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  11. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Absolutely, im with you. Haye has the ability to beat Vialit but shouldn't be ranked above him till they fight or till Haye blows out some of the other contenders. Vitali being such a badass, kinda deserves that respect.
     
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  12. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  13. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a bad ranking, I'd have Briggs above Barrett though and Chisora TKO5 above Solis. It really was an outstanding performance. If Solis didn't **** his leg up and Vitali beat him legitimatey, he would probably be my #1.
     
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  15. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is how I would rank their victories, vitali in yellow, haye in blue.
    I know Valuev wasn't very good, but his size made him difficult to beat and I don't think we can overlook the fact that he was a world champion.
    So based on this list, so in my opinion, Haye would need a victory against Povetkin/adamek/Fury/Pulev. Or two victories against opponents of Arreola's level or above.
     
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