What would Jeffries look like with a modern trainer, and access to dietary supplement

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  1. Mendoza

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    I think he could come in at a lean solid 230lbs today.

    Can't say for sure whether it would make him much better.
     
  3. Jorodz

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    Good question. Follow up: What would he lose in toughness and tenacity as a result though?

    If that era is (and rightfully so) considered tougher based on the conditions and makes more badass fighters, then transporting him now would certainly soften him up a bit.
     
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    Honestly..those guys were in better shape back then. No steriods or supplements. Just clean hard work.


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    2. Alexander Povetkin
    3. David Haye
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    8. Chris Arreola
    9. Tyson Fury
    If I look at all these guy I swear he looks more ripped than them. He would clean this crap out.
     
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  6. Jorodz

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    Fair response Mendoza. But the man who was so ****ing tough he once told his handlers to cut his gums out of his mouthpiece (against Choynski I believe) would not have had to do that in the modern era. The traits that made him great would still be present but he simply would not have had to develop that legendary grit
     
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    He would be 6'8" and 270 lbs. And black.
     
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    Boxing isn't a bodybuilding contest and looking ripped doesnt make you a great athlete ore a good boxer. Many of the lower ranked hw are more ripped than some of the list you posted but they don't have any real talent/skills so they make it up with psysical training.

    In mma you got two of the best fighters ever beating ripped up guys but are by ripped themselves. Im talking fedor emilanenko and anderson silva.

    By the way, wladimir klitschko is one most ripped hw ever, and still going strong at age 38. Boysov, haye and pulev arent exactly fat, they pure muscle
     
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    Food was more organic back then. Over farming, factory industrialised farming has diluted a lot of vitamins and nutrients in the food we eat now. For example you need to eat 10 times more green vegetables to get the same amount of iron that existed in the vegetables of those days. Same with meat. They ate quite well and already knew to boil meats, everything was fresh too. On Jeffreis diet a modern fighter would need supliments just to match the goodness jim was getting in the same diet because there was so much more vitamins in the food he ate in those days.

    The training was different but it worked. Could he be fitter or stronger now? Maybe he could be as fit and as strong for longer. We know more about getting more out of the body and coping with injuries.

    Could he be bigger and not lose any pace? Would he need to be bigger?

    Today Jeffreis could be an enormous 260lb because its the trend to be as big as possible but would he be better or just closer in size to the artificaly enhanced heavyweights currently around today? I think Todays fighters could be better if they trained like jeff in the old days.
     
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    For me it is easier to predict what he would weigh, than whether it would benefit him.
     
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    Boxers were trained never to lift weights back in the day. These fighters today have weightlifting muscles and throw slow and can't move.
     
  13. sugarkills

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    He would look like a 6'8 300lb steroid ripped version of Gene Fullmer. :D
     
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    "Food was more organic back then. Over farming, factory industrialised farming has diluted a lot of vitamins and nutrients in the food we eat now. For example you need to eat 10 times more green vegetables to get the same amount of iron that existed in the vegetables of those days. Same with meat. They ate quite well and already knew to boil meats, everything was fresh too. On Jeffreis diet a modern fighter would need supliments just to match the goodness jim was getting in the same diet because there was so much more vitamins in the food he ate in those days."


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  15. Bummy Davis

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    transplanting a fighter from one generation to the next may be a give and take,a lot of the old timers I know were rock solid and came up from the school of hard knocks but if it was possible to bring a guy like Jeffries forward into the present world with modern supplements and the best training these days have to offer he would be a stronger beast than he was and he was