What would Lewis have done if he was in Wlad's shoes last night?

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I really don't think that his overall comp was better than Wlad's. I don't even think it's close, to be honest. A prime (but green) Vitali may be the best guy on either one's resume, but other than that... Wlad fought better, younger competition, and stood as the true Champ for MUCH longer than Lewis.

    Lewis didn't fight any of the top fighters of his own era during their prime. The couple that he did fight, were past their best when he faced them. When he was considered true champ after his fights with Holyfield, Lewis fought Frans Botha, Michael Grant, David Tua, was knocked out by Rahman, beat Rahman, an old Tyson, and then barely survived against Vitali. He then retired once the WBC forced him to face Vitali again. Hardly as impressive as what Wlad did. Several of the men on Wlad's resume would have beat the breaks off of everyone on that list other than Vitali. Let's remember... that Lewis himself was losing to Vitali, as well.

    As a matter of fact....

    Wlad beat Botha, and Rahman
    McCline beat Grant
    Byrd beat Tua and Holyfield

    Danny Williams and McBride beat a similar version of Tyson, so we really don't need to say much more about that.
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    We saw Lewis turn more boxing matches into fights as you put it because he had to do that more often than Wlad. Lewis was not as elusive or tight technically, and found himself being out boxed far more often,
     
  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Lewis fought his last fight at 37.

    Wlad is 39.

    He is factually right. You are wrong.
     
  4. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    The obvious answer is punch more but would that actually work? TF size, reach and style makes it pretty hard to hit him.

    I think many underestimate that factor as opposed to age of Vlad..

    Throwing more punches may lead to taking more damage = ko loss. I think Lewis would be more accepting of that that Wlad..
     
  5. bhwbj

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    I think Lewis could have hugged everytime an opponent got within range if he chose to, but the boxing world is glad he didn't.

    On the other hand, Wladimir attempts to hold and push down on his opponents everytime they get inside of his reach. If you call that being 'more elusive' then that's your opinion I guess....
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    Hilarious

    Actually he did that a lot and here in the states we all hated him for it.

    Lewis the crowd pleasing action man the boxing world was glad to have is history revisionism. He was considered a boring safety first hugger up until some time after his retirement. Fair or unfair, that's how it was.

    A few more years, Wlad is going to be the action man from better days.

    Don't **** someone who was there, man.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How am I factually wrong when I made no reference whatsoever to age other than to agree with him...lol

    The comprehension abilities by some posters on this site leave much to be desired.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    Actually as someone who was there, we both know that while that may have been the perception people had, it wasn't based on reality. Lewis could be a safety first fighter, and when he was the fans tended to focus on this, but he also bombed out far more fighters than most, including Ruddock, Golota, Rahman II, Grant, Briggs, just to name a few.

    The sad fact is that because he wasn't American and came after Tyson, his accomplishments were often over looked.
     
  9. eltirado

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    Fought better in the Rematch :hey
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    Only in your goofy eyes is a 31 year old fighter 32-1 "green"

    Frazier had a win over Ali before he had the same number of fights as Vitali.

    You want to find green fighters, just look at Wlad's resume, it's filled with them.
     
  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Nothing. Fury too good.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    Well first of all I was talking about their career achievements, not just their title defenses, but if you want to make a poll on this be my guest. But I suspect you'd lose.
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    Nah, you thought you were being a cutie.

    You got out cutied and now claiming your intentions were musread, because what else can you do.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    First you said the boxing world was glad, now you say they weren't. You made a statement, it was wrong. The boxing world as a whole did not appreciate Lewis until he was gone. And Wlad will also follow this path.

    I believe the criticism of Lewis and Wlad was both accurate and not a whole truth. Plenty of examples of Wlad also looking to bomb that are conveniently ignored or explained away to maintain the status quo.

    And Wlad is a non American, non British fighter coming in in the heels of Britians greatest heavyweight and a long dead American scene.
     
  15. BoxingDomain

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    I don't know what Lewis would have done, but here's what he thought about the fight last night.

    .@Tyson_Fury won fair&square and deservedly so + proved me wrong! I'm more curious as 2where was @Klitschko for 11.5 rounds! #klitschkofury

    So here are some of my final thoughts on #klitschkofury I thought WK didn't show up and TF played the ultimate mind games with him.