What would Lewis have done if he was in Wlad's shoes last night?

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  1. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He may not do better but he would at least try, Lennox wasn't the sort to just let someone take his titles, a knockout loss is a lot different to being way behind on the cards and not giving it everything you got.

    Wlads mentality wouldn't allow him to go out on his shield throwing bombs, lennox' mentality would allow him to do that.
     
  2. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis unlike Wlad COULD just go for broke and jump on you.

    He was cautious, but he had that go forward gear when he needed it.
    Wlad doesnt seem to have that, especially not anymore
     
  3. Robney

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    Trow a punch maybe :conf
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I've tried explaining this to him multiple times. He just doesn't seem to be able to understand.
     
  5. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Lewis trudged his way to a mid round knockout loss without looking like he was trying to win. That's worse. And Wlad did fight with urgency in the last two rounds at least. He didn't quit or get knocked out while retreating to the ropes, after trying to hug his way out of the last two rounds.

    And both Lewis and Vitali more meekly surrendered titles, without being 3 months shy of 40 years of age. I think you can comprehend that but don't want to.
     
  6. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    When did Lewis go out on his shield throwing bombs?

    Certainly not the Rahman fight. Thats quite a romantic imagination you have.
     
  7. FilipMNE

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    Lennox would KO FUry, he actually had plan A plan B and had heart.
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Get a hold of yourself. What do you count as urgency? That cowardly headbutt? Please.

    Out of shape film set 'trained' Lewis at least tried to throw punches against Rahman before being caught heavily whilst starting to gas and knocked out. He didn't appear not to care as you suggest.

    When do you claim that Vitali 'meekly' surrendered his title? When he tore his rotator cuff? Go home Mongoose, you're drunk.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    That after dogging it for three rounds, getting hurt, hugging, and back paddling, and finally knocked out after backing across the ring and going into the ropes with your hands up is going out with guns blazing?
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He was actively trying to win, his arrogance beforehand just hadn't put him in a position to compete. He then had his clock cleaned and that was that.

    Wlad however didn't even try to win. He was content to see out a boring UD loss and hope for a robbery on the cards. I know it's difficult for you to accept but Wlad whilst a great athlete has never been a natural fighter. Now stop crying, try not to think about the impact that this has on his legacy and move on. I'm sure it'll get easier.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    Wlad lost the headbutt battle.

    I would count all the loaded up hooks and right hands he was previously not throwing as a sign of increased urgency.

    And Wlad didn't appear to not care either, certainly frustrated as he bounced forward and looked for openings he couldn't pull the trigger on or missed completely. And as you know, Fury was clinching when he got in range. Which was fair. Fury did what Wlad did to many opponents, and now Wlad is getting the same unfair critique.


    If Wlads performance is considered a meek surrender, than Vitali quitting on his stool is.
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Well we'll have to agree to disagree then. To my eyes (and seemingly Vitali's when he entered the corner) he didn't seem to be trying to force his will on Fury or push through adversity. He's admitted himself in the past that he's not a 'fighter' and for me and countless others it showed Saturday night.

    You can't compare a career shortening injury to just not trying but you have done so there's no point keeping this going with you.
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    I don't think Lewis was trying anymore than Wlad. Funny how walking inside to clinch and back paddling without punching takes on a whole knew meaning when Lewis is the one doing it.

    But hey, he didn't surrender the title, he was just poorly prepared...yeah, not training allegedly and dogging it until you are knocked out is certainly not easily surrendering your belt.

    I'm not crying..your crying. Come on, man are that un confident in your argument you have to make up hyperbolic pretense.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Because you know I'm right. You can't **** on one and respect the other.

    Vitali got far more criticism for that fight,than Wlad ever will for this Fury fight. You know that is true.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Lewis rematched and beat his losses. Glad never did - why do you think that is? It's because he doesn't have that warrior spirit in him. He never has and never will.

    It's funny how people like you work. You seem to think by continuing to post that your somehow winning a debate. You're wrong, everyone else here can see that you're wrong and yet you just keep ploughing on in spite of your hopelessness.

    If only Wlad had shown such resolve. Then we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.