What would Manny do different...

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  1. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing. Did he adapt in four fights with Marquez? No. He just gradually lost clearer and clearer.
     
  2. Floyds straight right was quicker than Manny's jab.

    just on that fact alone I can't see manny every beating Floyd without a miraculous KO.
     
  3. smooveonthe88

    smooveonthe88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  4. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal

    Good point. I predict Floyd by KTFO if there is a rematch. Pac will stay the same and Floyd Sr will train Jr for the KO.
     
  5. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    eh...it's not the first time Pac's lost and it's not even close to the worst way he's lost (KTFO 6 springs to mind).

    If his inability to reach Mayweather had been coupled with Mayweather hurting him then I'd agree. As it is, I don't think his mental state would be so significantly impacted that he wouldn't be able to get over it.
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I really think Roach and Pac watched the Judah fight, and tried to fight just like Judah did....but figured they could keep it up the entire fight. What they didn't anticipate is Floyd DIDN'T fight the same way as he did against Judah. He moved a lot more against Pac, then he did Judah.

    They were standing in front of Floyd, slowly walking him down, and trying to counter him with hard lefts. I think they anticipated Floyd standing his ground more, but he switched it up on them and made them chase him. Pac/Roach got played.
     
  7. floyd should convince manny to come train with him.

    then beat him again
     
  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    People need to understand, Manny's way past his prime.
    It's better for him to get beat again in a rematch than get beat by someone else. :deal

    What could he do different ?
    Well, land more hurtful punches, it's the same old story.

    He should go total kamikaze on Floyd. Like when he had Floyd covering up on the ropes, just go mental until one of them falls.
    Manny has nothing to lose. :deal

    See, he had nothing to lose last week, the VAST MAJORITY of people thought he would get outboxed (myself included), some thought he'd get knocked out.
    Now he's got even less than nothing to lose ! :lol:

    Anything's possible in a fight, even if some things are highly unlikely.
     
  9. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Filipino media asked him why he didn't use his footwork and why he was so flat-footed.

    Response?

    "I was trying to land one punch KO [laughs]. My moves won't be like that in rematch."

    Maybe after the 4th round, but before, he still wasn't using his footwork. I know he can because you see him use it for hours straight in training camp, good as always. I think the footwork was caused by a multiple of factors: injury, coming in way too heavy [152], game plan, etc.
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I think then, most likely his lack of movement was due to Floyd's movement. He may be more prepared in the rematch. But it looked like he was constantly a step behind and he may have mentally broke a bit early in the fight. He wasn't using his footwork to set things up, because he was constantly trying to play catch up to what Floyd was doing.
     
  11. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight was just weird. I'm about to rematch morales 1 and 2 and see if I can see similarities between him not using right hand, and what he did differently in rematch... because Morales used a similiar game plan. Use the jab, counter right right hand allll night. Of course, it was slightly different because Morales would fight back in attacks while Mayweather would tie him up.

    In the rematch though, Pacquiao negated that game plan someway and I'm about to see how. I think it might have been the right hook.
     
  12. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    freddie roach got it wrong, it's not Floyds legs that are shot, but manny's instead
     
  13. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the rematch, Morales was more shot. He just lost to ATG Raheem. #48 fought a Raheem leftover.
     
  14. MVC!

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    Nothing. He would be outclassed again no matter what he does.

    Just not as talented as May, not even close.

    2 different classes of fighter between the two

    Floyd is A+-S class

    Manny is an A class fighter

    The gap is very wide.
     
  15. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So the gameplan was to just try and land one punch and knock floyd out, Jesus Christ Freddie what a gameplan that is...5 years to study what's worked against floyd and how to get the punches to the target, how to corner him etc and roach's game plan consists of 'go in there, land a left and knock him out'...genuinely unbelievable.

    Nothing will change in the rematch. Pac couldn't adapt to Marquez in 4 fights and just gradually lost clearer and clearer.