What would Mosley's record be if he fought PBF's level of comp? Where would he rank?

How many leagues were his skills above Castillo when he lost in AT LEAST half the people's opinion in the first fight and when he had to absolutely stink the house out in an unimpressive display in the rematch to get the win?

As for Floyd taking the fight to Forrest like Mayorga did, LMFAO@that. Floyd is about as different from Mayorga as you can get.

Winky throws 1000 punches a fight, and against Floyd he can do so with his hands down because he has NOTHING to fear with Floyd's shitty punches. He will walk him down and stick that southpaw jab onto him all night long. Everyone bar you can see that.

 

Quartey has a MASSIVE weight advantage on Floyd. Bigger than Castillo's and Corrales' on Floyd, you can bank on that. I won't even mention the strength differential.

 

Mayweather dominated 3 of the first 5 rounds, the other 2 were close. After that only a few more rounds were close. Give him all the close ones and he wins the fight. If you don't, he loses it.

As for Castillo's great resume, yeah it looks ok, until you also notice that he also lost to Corrales and arguably lost to Johnston (thought he did twice) and Casamayor (had Castillo by a point) as well. Then the resume doesn't look oh so impressive.

Mayorga exploited his defensive weaknesses by bum rushing him. Better boxers with more standard styles were not able to. Mayweather does not box anything like Mayorga so what makes you sure he will exploit the same weaknesses in Forrest?

He probably threw 1000 against Simon as it is, and against Vargas he actually had somehting to worry about on the way back to him. Against Hopkins his workrate came down, but he was also fighting way outside his best weight class and in any case, he was past his prime by them, as he was for Quartey fight might I add.

 

I'm not sure, your'e the expert on how much a fighter gains after a weigh in, I just know that Quartey looks much bigger and stronger than Castillo and Corrales.

Quartey presented problems for Winky because he had a very strong guard, but in any case, Winky won that fight without leaving second gear. I thought the fight showed that Winky was past it a little as well though, his timing was off more than it was in previous fights. Really, Wright started slowing down around the time of the Soliman fight. His last trully elite showing was against Jermain Taylor. I thought he still pushed Hopkins close, but Hopkins just did his usual punch and grab crap and basically killed the fight.

 

Mayweather tasted the canvas against Judah anyway, and Castillo as well for that matter, even though it wasn't counted as a knockdown when Castillo rattled and broke his ribs when Floyd fell to the canvas.

Mayweather obviously has the better defense, but Mosley has power and strength advantages.

You're right Winky wouldn't throw 1000 punches against Floyd because Floyd would be doing his darnedest to run and potshot.

As for Winky not showing the ability to adjust if a fight wasn't going his way, in which fights were they? And how do they relate to a fight with Floyd Mayweather?

 

They both had about 4 clear rounds each.

The best of his time were not all that great though. A lot of very good fighters nonetheless. Castillo was a very good fighter. Not as good as Mosley though. That is clear.

Forrest spent the best years of his career in obscurity. He was pretty clearly past it after the Mayorga fights, and even in the Mayorga fights he looked average compared to what he had looked like before them.

I don't think Mayweather could walk him down and break him down, but he will get brave in patches, like he did against a faded Oscar.

Winky went after Hopkins and wasn't holding back his punches. Hopkins simply held him after every punch he threw though. Obviously you can't set a high workrate when you're bieng held half the fight.

Winky is pretty well proven. He hasn't fought a real slick type boxer (unless you want to call Hopkins that) but he has taken on most other styles and at least held his own. To me he's only lost one fight in his career, against Vasquez when he was rather greenish, and had a couple of draws. Anyone he has officially lost to hasn't been a mug either.

 

Mayweather might have added weight, but that doesn't make him a natural at those weights, as we was at the weights against Corrales and (to a lesser extent) Castillo.

As for Wright not bieng past it against Quartey and Soliman, well agree to disagree.

 

I can;t remember what round it was but Castillo clubs Floyd to the body and then they sort of tangle and Floyd goes down, in the first fight. Wasn't called a knockdown but it could have been. I think Floyd's riib was broken right there in that body shot.