What would the 15th round of Ali vs Frazier III look like?

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  1. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heh, can't argue with that really :thumbsup
     
  2. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Accessory to homicide....
     
  3. mcvey

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  4. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    Referee Padilla said he would have stopped it in the 15th if Frazier was ging tagged too often, so it would have been a 15th round TKO for Ali.:good
     
  5. C. M. Clay II

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    :tired
     
  6. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think the referee would have stopped it very quickly, Ali would have came out and for 30 seconds would be hitting Joe cleanly and getting nothing back.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    How much do you think Ali had left after the end of the 14th?
     
  8. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too much for Frazier to be honest. I think the stories about him wanting to quit are exaggerated. Ali would have sensed Joe was gone and came out strong, trying to get the round in the bag early. If he came out strong and Frazier was still standing then the pace would have slowed down dramatically, Ali holding the centre of the ring jabbing Frazier from range, who at this time was too exhuasted to even contemplate trying to slip a jab.
     
  9. I had a dream the once that Frazier came out and was getting tagged and smashed up much like many of the distiguished posters on here are prophesising. Then Frazier has a 'rocky' moment, where he sucks it up, steels himself, and starts firing back with scorching hook-and-uppercut body and head combinations. He finally hits Ali with a left hook of the same magnitude of the one in round 15th of FOTC and the great warrior falls for the ten.

    However, in reality i believe that frazier would lose on points.
     
  10. Lex

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    Frazier's claim that Futch stopped the bout prematurely was disingenuous. Futch can clearly be seen talking to Joe, trying to find out whether Frazier can go on or wants to go on, and Frazier repeatedly shakes his head no.

    Now, if Joe misunderstood Futch in the noise, confusion and blurry headed brain buzz, well, that's unfortunate. But Joe shouldn't have blamed Eddie for doing his job, which includes keeping his fighter from getting killed.

    If Joe had gone into the 15th round he wouldn't have finished it. I don't think Ali had enough to KO Frazier, but Padilla would have stopped the fight to save Joe from further punishment. Ali was bouncing punches off of Frazier's head like he was dribbling a basketball. It was relentless and getting ugly.

    Frazier was well behind on the cards. He was taking too much punishment and altho' he was connecting, his best shots didn't seem to be threatening to stop Ali or even slow him down enough to give Joe a break.

    Ali's "collapse" afterward was as much show business as exhaustion. It reminded me of James Brown's emotional collapses on stage, complete with throwing off his cape and wailing. It was real and heartfelt, but it was also show biz. A well trained Ali always had just a little more in the tank than his opponents. No matter what he said about feeling like he was gonna die, might have quit earlier in the fight, etc., it was show biz and, in an odd way, showing respect for Frazier. No way was Ali gonna quit.
     
  11. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    You have a real problem with Ali as you have previously stated you hate him. That severely taints your opinion of him, in other words your obtuse opinion of Ali has absolutley no credibility whatsoever.
     
  12. ThinBlack

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    Ali would have put Frazier on the canvas, and the referee issues a stoppage.
     
  13. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier was absolutely spent, a completely blind sitting duck. Ali had done enough heavy bag work at that point in his boxing career to answer the bell, throw some punches and land them, at which point Padilla says he'd have stopped the fight.

    Ali TKO 15.
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think the 15th would have looked much like the 14th.
     
  15. Stevie G

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    I'm extremely glad that Eddie Futch did n't allow Frazier out for the last round. Both men were exhausted in that one,by the end of the fourteenth. Frazier was eating Ali's punches non-stop in that round,and the situation would have worsened. Joe could have got seriously hurt,and a Michael Watson or Gerald McClellan like tragedy could easily have prevailed.