what would the ATGs do in tyson vs holyfield 2?

oh, he wanted to fight but under some Brownsville of Brooklyn rules

 

It had nothing to do with the cut, he wanted no part of Holyfield anymore. Tyson recently admitted he was a brat by then and was responsible for some of the headbutts. I love those fights but there's not one in good quality on youtube that I could find unfortunately.

 

Marciano was cut pretty bad a couple of times and you know how it ended each time.
I don't agree with "he wanted to get out of the fight" thing, because Tyson was whoopin' Holyfield in round 3 and all of the sudden he just bites the guy. That just wasn't a rational decision "i'ma get out of the fight now cuz I'm cut so I'm going to get DQ" given the circumstances in round 3. This is just Tyson on some stupid, uncontrolled, moronic ****.

 

I think it was a mixture of everything that caused the bite, Frustration, pressure, butting and getting schooled in front of the world.

One thing which i feel is overlooked is the pressure on Tyson at the time. According to the press, media fans etc, Tyson was going to destroy Holyfield etc etc, this puts a lot of pressure on a fighter, especially a mentally fragile post prison Tyson who had a rude awakening when he realised the first time round, that Holyfield isnt old and shot like people make him out to be. Tyson simply didnt have the mental game anymore.

If it didnt happen in Holyfield 2, it would have happened sooner or later.

I just dont think Tyson could handle the pressure, remember if Holyfield loses to Moorer etc, its no big deal, Tyson loses to Douglas, Holyfield and its the end of the world and hes been exposed and all his past achievments go down the toilet. Nobody talks about Holyfield getting owned by Toney and some of his later fights etc (and for good reason) but with Tyson, you constantly hear Williams and Mcbride more than Berbick, Holmes and Spinks?

My favourite fighter would probably have bitten Holyfield if he kept butting him....oh wait

 

You seen Hagler - Hearns ?

 

You keep fighting, but these spoiled millionaires dont want any part of that anymore. We saw it last night with Alexander. He basically quit and his interview after was telling. He knew he had a rematch clause so he quit after he got cut for the second time.

 

Tyson should have punched low each time he got butted or dipped down with his head himself. Holyfield was a master of the butt, everytime someone came together with him he dips and bulls his forehead into their eye. Don't try and tell me Tyson was using his head in the same was Holy, he wasn't.

Tyson premeditated that bite btw, he looked and tried for it earlier, he was winning round 3 so emphatically because he decided to end the fight, maybe it was deliberate get out or maybe he wanted to bite Holy to teach him not to butt and go back to fighting after some respect had been formed and keep using the forearm when they came together

 

Holyfield got a taste of his own medicine when he fought Williams this month

 

I know Holy didn't do butting in '91, but take the Tyson of '91 (when the 1st fight was originally planned for) & put him in with '97 Holy instead.

What would he do? Not bite. He'd fight through the pain, lowblowing & elbowing in retaliation.

 

He fought like a man possessed. :yep
A chilling destruction.

 

After prison, Tyson could care less about his career and thought things were going to be easy for him. He, himself said he thought everybody was scared of him but boy did that change when he fought Holyfield. Prior to prison he fought Ruddock in two wars and even much past his prime he toke a beating before being stopped by Lewis. Even against Botha he hung in there to take him out with the perfect shot. During his title reign he was very dominant but hung in there after getting hurt by Bruno to stop him. Even against people who spoiled(Tucker,Smith) he still found a way to win. Hell against Douglas he tried to ko Douglas but Douglas got up and was a man possessed. What I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't hold one bad performance against Mike when he's shown heart before that fight and after. He was a reigning champ for a reason.

 

Tyson claimed bankruptcy. He couldnt deal with the game and the rules. Took it to a street fight, but what did that do for him? The end result, is it took him out of the game, and ****ed his career up. He should have just hung in there. Holyfield plays a good game, but he weakens as the fight goes down the stretch, and that is when tyson should have jumped on him. You know this **** Hoby.

 

But to your question, i think some ATG would have folded, and others would have hung in there. Just because some would have lasted the distance doesnt mean miuch. If they gave up, they gave up, and its the same as bankruptcy. Just minimizing loses, so to speak. What would have Ali have done? Would most likely have beaten Holy down the stretch, peppering him with the jab. Holmes, about the same, at least in his prime. Lewis, would have beat him too, just as Bowe did. No matter, if you beat Holy at that time you would have to have absorbed a lot of damage to get the victory. As we saw Bowe take a lot of damage, and it wasnt an easy victory what so ever. Whoever would beat Holy at that time, would have had to deal with a **** load of adversity in the ring, taking a lot of damage to get the victory. As history has shown, It wasnt easy, and would never be easy, even for and ATG.