What would Tyson Look Like with Today's Training Methods?

yes, todays peds are better than those of the mid eighties. this applies to every pro athlete.

 

I don't know. While people are always learning more about nutrition, training, PEDs, etc...it's not like there is this improvement in the stamina and workrate of fighters. Especially at heavyweight.

 

Hed be like a shorter, darker version of Chris Arreola with todays special nutritioning

 

modern nutrition, so that's whats to blame for all these gassing fatboys that the K bros fight.

 

Todays modern nutrition = PEDS

or no training whatsoever like Chris Arreola, Tony Thompson etc

All this crap about modern nutrition is getting really repetitive.

I keep hearing how boxing has 'evolved' but no one has explained to me how exactly?

Are fighters faster now, harder hitting, better chins? how do you measure boxings 'evolved'?

And if boxing hs evolved, can some please explain Khans chin to me?

 

yep modern nutrition has apparently cut the stamina of top hws from being able to fight the full 15 rounds, down to gassing out in 6. wonderful progression there.

evolution can of course be the reverse of progression- like the chicken that evolved from dinosaurs. yeah like Big Bird is going to survive one round with Tyranosarus Rex.

 

Modern nutrition is just an excuse for Klitscko fans to use to say their heroes would have beat everyone from the past atsch

The only guy who i feel has truly evolved and taken boxing to a new level is Floyd Mayweather due to his slick defence, that is something which was never seen before, ok you had the Sweet Peas, James Toney etc, but Mayweathers style is totally unique.

Other than that, its still the same old styles, with a few tweaks. Punchers, technicians, counter punchers etc....its always been the same story.

 

I wouldn't really call Floyd's style evolved or unique. Obviously, his father and uncle used a similar style. It has some origins in the Philly Shell, not the same but some similarities. Archie Moore, Niccolino Locche, and George Benton used the shoulder roll, as well as other techniques.

I think it actually just goes to show how boxing is a sport that has NOT evolved technically. The big evolution and improvement in technique mainly in the 30s and 40s.

Bernard Hopkins being a top fighter at almost 50, James Toney's success at the higher weights despite training on whoppers and fries, so many old fighters at the elite level are all examples, IMO, of how boxing has actually regressed when it comes to skills.

A lack of technicians nowadays. Sergio Martinez and Tim Bradley, for example, are or were considered elite p4p rankings. Bradley's punching technique is improving but it was pretty awful for a p4p fighter.

 

Tyson would be Tyson he wouldn't bulk up to much his speed was key

 

Well, to be fair, the guy came through in the 80s.

Its not like he was training in the 30s like Dempsey.

He was ahead of his time when it came to size and physique. Nobody else in his era(pre prison) had his musculature and physical prowess.

 

Maybe not from the 80s, but since the 70s and back. Definately.

Look at every other sport and compare their athletes from the 70s and compare them to modern athletes.

If you put the Boston Celtics from 1975 and played them against the Heat from 2014, what do you think would happen?

Or the Manchester United team from 1968 and put them against the Real Madrid team of today.

Even modern tennis players are bigger and stronger than their counterparts of 40 years ago.

Sports science has improved leaps and bounds. Nutrition, training pirnciples, sports medicine and recovery...all have improved.

Guys from the 80s would be able to compete.

But before that, you're talking about different animals to modern athletes.

 

That's a poor argument that doesn't work because boxing is combat. It isn't like other sports & it doesn't rely on equipment or technology.

In boxing being bigger/stronger/faster doesn't equal being better because of the unique demands of the sweet science. Technique, toughness & timing are all far more important than being able to bench 200kg.

 

loads of sports have gone backwards, we just haven't heard about them because they have become fringe sports and are dying out.

just because you don't see trends, don't mean they aren't there.

 

I don't think much has changed since the 70's/80's to now. PEDs are probably much more rife/widespread nowdays to the point where probably most if not all top heavies are one 'em at the very least. Back in the days when you had Dempsey and it was all black n white film of low quality then those guys like Ali once said wouldn't have been able to compete as boxing did technically take off from where those guys would just fight with not much technique to what they did. Looking at the Tyson defence video showcase recently posted on here by someone...that showed a level of skill, and speed that you never saw from the old timers. Tyson was defo on PEDs...by his era they were commonplace. Lennox...nobody seems to have noticed how he got bigger and more muscular when he went to Manny. PEDs are here to stay and basically I just think let fighters use them as they are doing anyway unless they are prepared to do stringent proper testing not the nonsense bogus testing they usually do now for most fights. So either test properly or don't bother and let fighters just juice without the lies and cover up.