What woulda happened to Floyd without Arturo Gatti? May he rest in peace...

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  1. Mike_b

    Mike_b Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What woulda happened had Gatti (r.i.p.) had not given floyd his match?

    I remember at this time Floyd was really trying to cement himself as an outstanding athlete looking for a marquee named fight and Gatti, with coach buddy McGirt was a household name with his blood and guts and glory style of slugging. However Gatti was looking more polished with 3 big wins under the tutelage of buddy. I can't recall the Gatto victims all of em, I just remember there was a string of victories maybe three fights tops... As for Floyd he was degrading Gatti calling him a c+ or was it a b+ fighter? Anyway referring to himself as an a+ standout.

    I remember that match, pure domination by Floyd, fast with his hands fast with his feet with a radar on mostly all of his punches. Plus Gatti learned the hard way about the knockdown on the break lol. If Gatti never gave Floyd his big name shot, where would Floyd be?

    Obviously it's either: not on the pound for pound scene yet, not a household name yet, still looking for a big fight, as well as insert your opinion here:...
     
  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly Gatti was a warrior but he never had a shot against Floyd. Floyd picked up an easy belt at 140 but wasn’t interested in fighting Kostya Tszyu
     
  3. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Filip Hrgovic - Building his statue in Croatia Full Member

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    He'd be where he is now. Coming back at 49 trying to not go bankrupt.
     
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  4. Mike_b

    Mike_b Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I kinda meant like in the current state of things, back then like where would he reroute or redirect to get himself in position asf a player in the game...
     
  5. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Filip Hrgovic - Building his statue in Croatia Full Member

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    Yeah I know. Nothing would have changed. He would have got another decent fight elsewhere.
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd would still have been great, Gatti just made Floyd look on another level though
     
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  7. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Really? I thought it was because Tsyzu lost to Hatton and decided not to fight anymore.
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Tszyu had not yet lost to Hatton when Floyd moved to 140. Floyd DID take two eliminator fights to face Gatti. Late June 2005. Hatton Beat Tszyu just three weeks earlier.

    The issue had been speculated more due to Floyd fighting on HBO and Tszyu on Showtime. It's alsp been suggested Tszyu was on a fight by fight basis with Showtime and COULD have fought floyd, depending on information found. But reality is, Floyd would have always chosen Gatti over Tszyu if he had the choice. Easier fight and more exposure.

    And call outs are just empty talk. Every boxer calls out others. Contracts make fights, not call outs.
     
  9. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    I never heard Tsyzu call out Mayweather. In fact, at the time , Tsyzu didn’t show much interest in fightIng Mayweather at all. The fact remains that Tsyzu lost to Hatton and any interest in a Mayweather fight was gone.
     
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  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Call out are meaningless... Floyd could have had Tszyu before if he wanted.
     
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  11. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    It takes two to make a fight. Show me where Tszyu ever wanted to fight Mayweather or let it go.
     
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  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Show you? Dude...if it was realistic to be made, it would have happened. But Floyd chose to fight two guys just to get to Gatti, who was a bigger PPV star, in case you weren't in to boxing as much then.

    Like I said, there was even the possibility it could NOT be made due to the HBO/SHOWTIME dispute. But sure, focus on "Call outs":, as if they make a fight or make you feel better.

    A TON of people called out Floyd. A ton of people call out others. Margarito made Floyd stutter when spoke to face to face about a fight. It's just talk FFS....
     
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  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Tszyu was never a big talker he didn't really call anyone out. It is pretty obvious that Mayweather did not want to fight Kostya Tszyu.
     
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  14. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Funny how it was always difficult for Floyd to make fights with guys in their prime. Seems like he was the common denominator.
     
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  15. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Yes, the common denominator was that other fighters who were “A” side didn’t want to fight Mayweather until he was able to bring a lot of money to the fight. Oscar and Mosley didn’t want to fight him and Tsyzu never showed any real interest. If I am wrong, please show me. Otherwise, it just seems like Australian homerism.
     
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