I've been on this forum for a while but haven't posted much i respect opinions of most people on here although they're are a fair few idiots who are in for a wind up. I'm english and although i didn't agree with the whole haye build up mocking valuev at every turn he has done the division a favour. Whatever people think of Haye at least he's a decent boxer although he didn't show much of it tonight granted. I'm not convinced by all this broken/busted hand rubbish but the sooner Valuev is without a title and the sooner fights are out of germany the better. Germany is the hardest place to win a verdict in the world FACT!!! ask robin reid the most disgraceful decision stroke referring performance i have ever seen!!! Valuev is just what is wrong about the division a big lump who has now boxing skills whatever who lumbers around a ring with no ability just size he must have thrown at least a 100 jabs which my nan could duck PATHETIC. I generally can't believe that people actually think Haye's tactics were wrong?? it looked like a s*it boxing computer game on a zx spectrum when they were in the ring. the size difference was stupid!!! Although the last round proved if he was more offensive he could have taken him out i generally believe that. I hope Valuev is now out of the contenders for a title and good riddance he's just plain awful. If ruiz is Haye's next opponent he will be blasted in 5 and people will see the real haye in that fight. Now the freak has been dethroned hopefully the HW division will pick up and have some realistic fights where people won't have to run around the ring to avoid a giant waste of space. If Ruiz is the mandatory so be it but i think a good fight for Haye would be Arreola first up across the pond to get publicity which i think he will win. Forget unifying get some fights underneath his belt then think about the Klitschko's. At present Haye would struggle big time with Vitali? Anyway thank god for getting rid of the lump! Hopefully we might start to see some competivitive HW fights from now on?