Whatever happens on Saturday night, don’t forget the fact that Golovkin defeated both

Nope, there is an argument that he lost to Jacobs but not near as strong as Canelo losing either fight vs GGG

 

I mean, I agree in theory, GGG ought to be 3-0 against them, or at worst 2-0-1 (beating Canelo twice, drawing with Jacobs) and maybe at an absolute push 2-1 (losing by a cunt-hair to Jacobs) - but either way, those fights all proved that middleweight's trio at the upper echelon are pretty much all on the same level. Even if you have GGG deserving the nod in all three, it was a struggle each time, and ultimately close as hell on any fair non-delusional scorecard. (ie you can't really have it wider than 116-112 GGG in any of those fights)

 

No because he wasn't as good as his fans made him out to be a 36 year old pbf in his 5th weight class shut out canelo.

 

If each fight was "ultimately close as hell on any fair non-delusional scorecard" then GGG would be at best 3-0 and at worst 0-3 not at worst 2-0-1.

 

Well, to be fair, holding anyone up to PBF's impossibly high standard is...well, pretty unfair.

 

Ugh, you again, with this again. Nope. If one guy has enough CLEAR rounds then it can be possible for him to have won CLOSE BUT CLEAR. I don't get why you selectively act incapable of understanding this concept - oh wait, yes I do, you do so exactly whenever it doesn't suit your agenda.

 

152 isn't a weightclass though, Floyd created his own weight class in order to fight Canelo. Canelo was obviously a much more seasoned and healthier fighter by the time he fought GGG. GGG fought a Canelo who was allowed to be at his best. Floyd fought a younger less seasoned less experienced Canelo who was weakened / drained unheathily. The versions of Canelo that GGG fought would obviously mop the floor with FMJ.

 

"Close as Hell" ≠ "Close but clear".

 

Notice how in threads like this on divisive/inflammatory subjects, just one person manages to avoid gagging on either GGG's balls, or Canelo's - or choking on their hatred of either.

Me. The lone neutral/objective voice in the wilderness, fighting a war on all fronts, as usual.

 

Pbf wasn't prime he was 36 past his best and fighting out of his prime weight class so that evens it out. Btw pbf would always be a stylistic nightmare for canelo.

 

I beg to differ, I'm the lone neutral/objective voice in the wilderness. You for example still are incapable of detaching from the "GGG clearly won both fights" train. To be unbiased you would need to admit that both fights were extremely close and arguable either way.

I recognize how close and debatable both fights were and am open-minded to those that scored it in favor of either fighter.

 

FMJ is a stylistic nightmare for anybody, Canelo was a stylistic nightmare for Floyd too because he was willing to box him from the outside. Most fighters just try to swarm Floyd. But Canelo is willing to engage in a true chess match with Floyd which is why Floyd went to such great lengths to weaken Canelo through the catchweight and got himself into great shape. At 36 years old he got himself in the best condition he's been in over the last decade. He had to get in that kind of shape for Canelo because Floyd was no dummy and knew Canelo was his most difficult fight possible. To have any chance, Floyd needed that catchweight, to weaken Canelo, because he was not confident at his ability to beat a 100% Canelo.

 

Which is why he cant beat pbf you're not ever going to outbox the outboxer. Pbf was a bad match up for canelo just like he was for jmm both of which are great boxers but looked and tried to outbox a superior boxer in pbf.

 

Well JMM was just too small to give Floyd problems. Floyd was able to control range vs JMM, size and speed were a major contributor to that. Floyd was not able to control range vs Canelo like he could with JMM because Canelo is bigger faster and more skilled, and thus was always a bigger threat to Floyd. Due to Floyd being naturally bigger than JMM, Floyd JMM was a complete domination, whereas Floyd Canelo was a 12 round chess match.

 

That’s why mike tyson will always be the son of kevin mcbride , coz his age was his problem .