Whats everyone putting down for Haye/Harrison

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by dannylatics, Oct 22, 2010.


  1. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't pay any attention to much of the other topics, and i don't pay attention or have much respect for the no mark posters, who post pointless things like.........Audley Harrison has no chance..bla bla bla bla.

    Anybody who thinks David Haye vs Audley Harrison is a miss-match is totally delusional, blind, stupid, a ******, has learning difficulties, or maybe some kind of abuse is going on at home that is affecting your everyday life and judgement.

    How do i think the fight is going to go..?

    Audley Harrison will win via brutal knock out, I'm not smiling when i say this......."Because this is going to destroy David Haye's life" and I've never been so certain about a fight in my life.

    People need to realise the fact that Audley Harrison is the biggest/fastest/most skilled David Haye has ever signed on the dotted line to fight. Forget about all those 14 stone characters he fought at Cruiserweight, this is the Heavyweight division.........."a place where there are no Mugs"

    Audley Harrison stands at a Height of : 6"4/1/2
    Audley Harrison has a longer reach than Lennox Lewis at 86"
    Audley Harrison in prime condition is around 250 pounds.

    Audley Harrison is a Super Heavyweight.

    Anybody who suddenly believes that David Haye is suddenly going to become a pressure fighter in this fight.

    "People who suddenly believe he is going to Morph into Mike Tyson"

    Again do not know boxing or David Haye. David Haye has fought 90% of his fights as a cagey counter puncher, deep down that's the type of fighter he is. And as he has moved up to Heavyweight, you have all witnessed how he fought against Valeuv, Ruiz, Monte Barrett. His true instincts of what type of fighter he is, have surfaced even more........because he's no longer the Big Man..."Like he was at Cruiserweight".

    David Haye is intimidated by size, and this does affect how he fights..........it does not make him a terrible fighter, David Haye is good at what he does.

    David Haye against Enzo Mac was less cagey, but still pretty cagey, throwing them fast counter bombs, thats what he does............he's not going to fight like Mike guys, believe me......i won't even bother posting his fight against Valuev..........."he threw 10 punches a round" and was cagey as ****".......let me just stress, i'm not moaning..........David Haye is good at what he does, he's good fighter.......but he's not going to turn into Mike Tyson come fight time.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrnjuQY9rek[/ame]


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    He is a cagey counter puncher, he does not have the educated pressure fighting skills of a Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield, and he does not have the mentality to fight in that manner. So i totally rule out a ferocious David Haye going jumping all over Audley Harrison from the start, that would be totally ludacuris and stupid for David Haye to do that.

    You people seriously think David Haye is going to run straight at Audley Harrison a 6"5 250 black man, with decent speed and skills, and serious counter punching ability of his own..? :lol:

    When David Haye, fought a cagey as **** fight against Enzo Macc until he landed that right hand..?, a 14 stone character from wale's..? :lol:

    David Haye will come out in the first round, like he has in all his Heavyweight fights, and most his other fights. He will be standing off, using movement and being cagey......and looking for that fast counter punch.

    How will this affect Audley Harrison..?

    Audley Harrison is a Olympic Champion, I've seen some no mark posters say that he slow. A 6"5 250 pounds, a in shape and prime Audley Harrison has speed, I'm not saying he is Ali. But he has hand speed way above average for a Super Heavyweight.

    Does he look slow here..?


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBf9hs6FLkw[/ame]


    Audley Harrison is not stupid and in the first round, he will keep it simple, while David Haye is bouncing about trying to dance around, looking all ferocious. Audley Harrison will just use a hard fast Jab, and with all the smack talk David Haye has dished out, as the minutes go on.....he's going to feel the pressure and he will panic and look for that fast straight right hand lead, or he will lunge in with something.

    And this is where this fight will get interesting, this is where all those people who have stated this fight will be a technical miss-match, all those people who said Audley Harrison has no chance. Will suddenly think to themselves...

    "Oh ****"

    Sometimes the smallest of things in boxing can make the biggest of differences. When David Haye goes to land that straight right hand, or whatever fast lunging in counter punch he is throwing. Auldey Harrison will do the simple thing, and step back and spin to the side. This will automatically put him back out of range, and David Haye will miss..........John Ruiz, Monte Barrett, Valuev none of these guys at Heavyweight have had this simple basic fundamentals or intelligence to do this.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSuqkQg3tc[/ame]


    If you look closely, Audley Harrison does it all the way through this fight. He does this little move against most if his oponents when he turns up..!! It's one of the reason why he has Never really taken any massive beatings.

    And this is when Audley Harrison himself decides to counter punch....! David Haye might avoid the punch, or it might connect....! this is when the fight will begin.

    David Haye very rarely throws combinations, if he has his opponent hurt "Yes" but generally he throws 1"2s.

    Audley Harrison is more of a natural combination puncher, and dear i say it throws faster combinations.

    Also might i just add, a topic was made about Floyd Mayweather Pull and Counter in the general forum the other day. Audley Harrison this exact same punch at Heavyweight and has knocked guys out our down off it. So if people think this is a technical miss-match, again you don't know boxing...............these are the moves that won Audley Harrison the Olympic Title.

    And all this talk of Audley Harrison being terrified of anyone that throws punches is a media myth, and has been drummed into our minds by his critics who just so happen to be the media. Audley Harrison before he sparked out Michael Sprott with one hand, was under fire from Sprots best attack of the whole fight. Did Audley Harrison curl up in the corner and stop fighting back....? No...................they where all so wrong.

    The Equalizer.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP3Q3E9aGVo[/ame]


    So basically as the fight goes on, David Haye will continuously keep lunging in sometimes he will land, sometimes Harrison will pull that basic fundamental move and counter himself. Both guys will be hit, it will be a competitive fight.

    "Which Audley Harrison has acknowledge, but David Haye has not..!"

    David Haye's stamina is average, he does not have a high work-rate so, these are the things people need to take into account.

    But the deciding factor is that Audley Harrison is more inclined to Follow up on his punches when he lands with more punches AKA Combinations. David Haye likes to land one hard bomb, stand back and see the affects, or he might land a 1"2. And he's used to watching guys stumble, or fall down off this.

    "I don't think Audley Harrison will fall down or stumble, he will grab and hold....or he might try and fire back"

    Audley Harrison whenever he lands his big shots, switches into A-force mode. He did it against Danny Williams, Michael Sprott, he will unleash on his opponents.

    "And Audley Harrison is a Heavyweight with power, fact of the matter is Audley Harrison has taken more punches at Heavyweight then David Haye..............he's gonna get hit in this fight, and i honestly don't think he will like it"

    And this is why as the fight goes on David Haye will get beat up, and eventually knocked sparked out....Audley Harrison.
     
  2. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    That's a long ass ****ing post. You've got to at least want to give Audley Harrison a rimjob.
     
  3. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a monster of a post!:cheers
    Well done sir! :good
     
  4. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks...

    Seen this comment on youtube, on one of David Haye vs Audley Harrison interviews.


    oasis4ever92 (1 month ago)

    plus this interviewer is ****. she doesn't have a ****ing clue. "who won that fight?" (between Lewis and Bruno) stupid ****ing slag



    Just made me smile this..
     
  5. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxmYIJVqM8Q[/ame]


    :lol:


    I feel abit sorry for Audley Harrison during this video, you can see the hurt in his eye's........when David Haye is slating him.
     
  6. gooners!!

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    PK, a few things I'd like to pick you up on, well, would like you to address for me, I dont mean to be argumentative but would like to get your take on a few things you said which im not in full agreement with, anyway, here goes........


    I dont agree with that PK, I think Haye is an aggressive guy who tries to be slick, thinks! he fights smart, however I think that is his biggest downfall, he is an impostor of a slick fighter, he thinks the odd counter right hand, dropping your left hands, using your legs, makes you slick/smart, it doesn't, what makes you slick, IMO, is not getting hit, being a smart fighter, having an array of counter punches, not the odd one, having good balance and sound technique, which Haye has neither imo, he does not even rotate his body into his hooks sufficiently, which is why he throws that loopy right hand/hook. I would agree that Haye has fought most of his career fighting out of that cautious, counter punching style, but I think his true mentality, is to be aggressive, which is precisely what got him into trouble against Thompson imo, his true tendencies, personality, resurfaced in that fight, now I'd say he has learned lessons from that defeat, but his mentality is essentially the same, I mean you can see it in his interviews by the way! he speaks about opponents, I also think Haye's aggressive nature means that he can be prone to throwing punches and leaving himself open, particularly when he perceives a guy to be hurt, although I do agree with in the sense that he is most probably not going to jump on Harrison, however I think you can see his true tendencies, his mentality, in spots when he gets overexcited.

    Two things that I believe dont mix well in a fighter, a poor chin, a low Boxing IQ, Haye has both imo.


    I dont think he will do that, Haye looks to be so confident of winning, that I have a feeling he thinks he is going to slow the pace down and toy with Harrison for a few rounds before knocking him out.


    But I also think that Audley has to be mindful, that even if that counter punching opportunity does not present itself, that Haye will also look to get off first, and with his extra speed, could be a problem, particularly as I believe Harrison has a tendency to fall asleep behind the wheel when looking for the perfect opportunity to let the jab go, now what Audley should not do! in that situation, is start pawing with the jab waiting on the counter left hand to defend against that type of thing, his reflexes, at his age, are not good enough, IMO, to catch Haye on the way in, if he gets beat to the punch, could be lights out, particularly if his weight is on the lead foot and he cant lean back, distribute his weight quick enough to pull the trigger on that left hand, plus, Audley needs to make use of that long range, pawing with the jab to walk him into a counter left hand will just give up his range, if he is unsuccessful landing that counter left.


    Thats if Haye comes in straight, Haye resets him, attacks him off the angle the movement creates, will be more difficult to step/spin away from it imo.
     
  7. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im coming to Manchester for the weigh in. What the **** does that mean?????

    And Im no Manc my friend. Oldham is about 10 miles from Manchester ;)

    This thread has now been bookmarked. Can't wait to rip you a new one

    How about a bet between us since were both so confident of the outcome
     
  8. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye by KO/TKO in the middle rounds 5 to 8.
     
  9. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Audley all the way.
     
  10. leo_messi

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    Jesus Christ..

    I err really dont know how to reply to a post like that...

    :shock:
     
  11. J W Pepper

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    My head says Haye will destroy Harrison early, I am basing this on Harrisons perfomances against novice heavyweights in prizefighter and being 2 minutes away from loosing to sprott.

    I have become a bit of a Haye fan since he moved up to heavyweight as he has backed up most of the things he has said including becoming world heavyweight champion as I initially thought he was a bit of a **** when he was first on the scene.

    The thing is with harrison, he has got all the tools to do a job on Haye but he just doesnt use them, however on the buildup to this fight he has come across well and since there are good odds I am going to stick a couple of quid on an early KO victory for harrison, will definately only be a couple of quid tho ;)
     
  12. Smackersmith

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    Audley is out of his depth. He needs a last round miracle punch against a European level boxer so how he is going to compete at world levels baffles me.

    PK, you are so full of **** that your eyes must be brown. You are going to look the biggest moron when Haye gets Audley out of there within 4 rounds.
     
  13. Claypole

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    I feel exactly the opposite. I was a big fan of Haye when he was a cruiserweight, but he's gone down in my estimation since he moved up.

    He may have won a version of the heavyweight title, but fighting Valuev really was the easy option. If he really wanted to make a statement he could have at least put on a performance and stopped Valuev, but instead chose to stink the place out just so he call can himself "Heavyweight Champion of the World".

    He's no champ in my eyes until he beats at least one (if not both) of the Klitschkos, but he doesn't seem too serious about fighting either one of them, in my opinion.

    As for fighting Audley, this is the most disappointing thing he's done in his whole career to date. As much as I like Audley, his only credentials seem to be winning Prizefighter and reversing a loss to a domestic rival. This proves just how worthless the WBA title is.

    As for who I will be betting on, Haye would be the obvious choice, but I might have a couple of quid on Audley (points).
     
  14. J W Pepper

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    Although I have been impressed with Haye in all of his outings as a heavyweight, I dont think he would beat either of the Klitschkos on they're current form, They are too effective at what they do and dont tend to make many mistakes as well as being good athletes.

    When i found out about this match up i was dissapointed as I too wanted to see him fight one of the Klitschkos, but the smack talking by both fighters has been quite entertaining in a panto type way and as far as I'm concerned, the more Boxing coverage on TV the better.
     
  15. punk

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    Im puting a few quid on Audley inside 3. I know people will say im throwing my money away. I just have a feeling Audley will catch him in an untidy fight. Haye has so much to lose on this, and i think the night might get to him.