Whats gonna happen when Floyd Mayweather..

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Oscar Delahoya hits harder at 154lbs then Shan Mosley hits at 147lbs.
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    People get confused. Judah gave Floyd some trouble because of the style he was fighting in. yes the straight left hand is a good weapon against the shoulder roll, but it was Judah's style he was fighting in early on that was giving Floyd problems.
     
  3. elTerrible

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    yeah he was beating him to the punch with the jab on the outside, he did have faster hands and so he won a few rounds with that. Roger saw what was happening and told floyd to press the action to create more countering opportunities and after floyd started backing judah up the rest was history

    that showed a good jab and defense can give floyd problems as DLH showed. but people were bringing that up in even the pac/pbf fight and that has nothing to do with pac style wise and mosley doesnt have good enough of a jab that i think he can beat pbf on the outside with it

    someone like winky would have an easy night with floyd but fighters that could out jab floyd are far and few in my opinion
     
  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I totally agree about Winky, but then again you never know. Also, if I remember wasn't Judah also playing the shoulder roll game a little in the beginning of the fight and countering as well. It was almost like he was playing Floyds game but being a bit more aggressive with it then Floyd was. In the end we know Floyd adjusted and clearly beat him, but early on Judah did very well.
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most doubtful. Shane won both 147lbs and 154lbs fights with ODLH based on the most telling blows and not on boxing, ring generalship or punch stats... I know you r sayin that ODLH hits harder at 154 than Shane hits at 147 but I never saw spectacular KOs by Oscar at 154 ( including Vargas and Mayorga down the stretch) whereas you can't say Shane didn't hit Margarito hard!!!

    I do believe that Shane cannot look for the one punch for one and he will lose punch power if he goes into running numbers on Mayweather... He didn't hit Collazo hard but he hit him first and too many times.
     
  6. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    TRUTH BE TOLD fLOYD GOT THE PRIDE OF A MESKIN HE WILL FIGHT ON AND YOU WILL HAVE TO BRING A GUN IN THAT RING TO TAKE HIS ZERO
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    There is no point arguing, we both know the same things. P4P, maybe Shane hits harder, but a 154lb Oscar hits harder than a 147lb Shane IMO. Look at how Oscar put Mayorga on his ass early in the fight with the single left hook. :deal Mosley stopped him in the 12th on accumulation more then anything. But that left hook from Oscar was monsterous. I honestly don't think this should even be debated, I thought it would be just agreed.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreeing with this. His last few opponents were tailor made for him. No defense kind of fighters who are all on the old side. No movers or crisp boxers. He was doing terrible in the Mayorga fight before the KO. And Margarito needed wraps. Showing he didnt train or did not plan to win without cheating. Take the wraps off he is now no longer confident, distracted, and without a plan. He thought he could plaster his fists and roll to an easy KO. He had no plan B. He was never in the fight for a second. He did not even try to win. I don't really use Moseley Margo as a teller of this fight. It pretty much showed Moseley's power vs a guy who didn't really fight back. No surprises there. I knew Moseley could beat a non wrapped Margo. Floyd is not going to be there to be hit. If he is hit he has a plan. Best D and best counters in the biz. Moseley is a great veteran and a great veteran but I don't think his style is right and he doesn't have what it takes any more. Everybody approaches FMJ like W Klitschko. They have the attitude of all I have to do is land one shot and their paper chin will fold. When that magic punch can't land cause the guy is a better boxer or their super punch leaves the guy on their feet they have no plan B and get out boxed. Only thing I can see is post retirement Floyd may have flaws we did not see cause Marquez did not have the stuff to expose them. Maybe Floyd has a problem of some sort or is not a fast or something. But unless thats the case I'll have to think Floyd wins. But it will be tougher than Oscar and Marquez fights.
     
  9. Dorfmeister

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    So we go from punch power to one hand power ( the left hook)? I must insist to argue on that one-sided view: Just b'cause Shane won in the 12th against Mayo, it means he won on accumulation? You know that is BS to the young minds - Hoya did caught Mayo with a beautiful left hook on the fast transition, I guess a hook out of the jab, early on, hell yeah, but he finished Mayo ( who tried to sledge-hammer him all fight long fearlessly whereas he mostly grabbed Shane and try to spoil the fight), Oscar finished Mayo in the same fashion he stopped Quartey, Vargas and others - non stop, two handed flurry with them against the ropes... Shane landed a horse kick left hook that put Mayo on his back, stretched like Tito and Hoya couldn't do. Same goes for Shane and Oscar against Vargas.
     
  10. simon850

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    *yawn* This idea that Floyd has a glass jaw is getting ridiculous now, its like people are hoping that this myth is a reality as it is the only way in which Floyd can lose.

    In reality Floyd has a great chin/body and has shown this in past fights. Even when hit with a hard shot and is hurt he is able to use his natural ability to avoid further blows which would ultimately lead to more damage or knockdowns. Shane will find it hard to hit Floyd with flush shots, and if he does Floyd will take them and use his defence to get out of trouble.

    Shane is the one who needs to worry about accumulated damage in this fight, as I have a feeling we are not gonna see a potshotting Floyd in this fight.