What's most important for a fighter? From a fan's point of view.

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  1. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm all for that also, but most fighters drain their weight so they can be more competitive at the lower weight divisions. I don't know of any way around this problem.
     
  2. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hopefully, if you are big named prime fighter, then you have a belt, which would mean you're fighting someone for a championship which would be the same as trying to unify.

    if you are a big name in your prime, but do not have a belt, then chances are, you really arent that big a name. hope that makes sense.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Weigh-in on the day of the fight.

    But...draining is a two-way road; you have an advantage over a smaller guy but you have less power than you would at your natural division and it's easier for your opponent to KD/KO you, because you are dehydrated.

    So...take Diaconu, for example. 5 foot 9 and fighting at 175 - probably comes in on the night at 185 tops! Bute - 6 foot 2 fighting at 168, comes in on the night at 182+. Diaconu probably could make 168, but what would be the point? He has much more power at 175. Bute should really fight at 175, where he would have more power, but doesn't, for some reason...good idea?:think
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    :good
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm suprised so many picked "Unifying the Division". Most of the time when belts are brought uo, you hear the same rhetoric about how the ABC orgs. are corrupt and their belts are meaningless; that only the ring belt and the lineal title really matter.
     
  6. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    understand 100% and also agree. But also agree with CJlightweight, i think the first three are the most important, at least to me.
     
  7. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, thats why i think unifying helps clear out the confusion.
     
  8. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    But think about it...how many fighters in recent memory have TRUELY unified a division (in other words holding all of the major ABC belts)??? If you look it up, the list is a hell of alot shorter than you might think.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm all for unification. I'm just surprised other people are as well. Everytime I get into a discussion about the ABC belts, I get told that they're worthless and that only the ring or lineal champ matters. Hell, many don't even consider Campbell a legit champ and he has 3 belts. Oh yeah, I have looked up the list.
     
  10. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do you consider to be the major ABC belts, and why? Thanks.
     
  11. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of the time, if you are a big named opponent, you will hold a belt. But sometimes fighters relinquish a belt for not fighting a mandatory, or they've recently lost a fight with another big name.

    The reason why I mention it is because many champions today with incredible records have never fought a big named opponent which to me suggest that their resume isn't as good as it may first appear.
     
  12. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  13. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I picked fighting the Big names. Unifying some titles are not necessary. Pac fighting Fana??? You know what I mean!!!

    If I give a Freehand in promoting:

    I'll lined up Diaz, Casa, Hatton, DLH & PBF for Pac.

    For PBF - Cotto, Mosley, Margarito/Cintron, Pac.

    For Calzaghe- Bhop, Pavlik, Tarver

    Just look.. Mosley, Margo, DLH, Tarver are not even title holders but it's a better opposition than most Title holders. It also depends on How many fights left for a Certain fighters coz it's a waste of time fighting an unknown Paper title holders.
     
  14. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I think deep down inside every pro boxer wants to be challenged and wants to beat really good opposition for their own self pride. A boxer could unify a weak division and in the end it doesn't mean anything. What matters is that they fought some mean ass boxers and beat them.
     
  15. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would have to pick fighting big name opponents as the most important. Beating a great opponent legitimize yourself as one of the very best p4p regardless what belt you have. Many superfights today doesn't have anything to do with getting a title belt. Since boxers average only 2 fights per year, fans have waited long enough to watch their favorite fighter in action against another top contender. Todays fighters want to fight for their fans and they're calling out big names!