What's next for Bute after Joppy?

I don't know, but I would be surprised if they had asked for options. InterBox is not a big club and couldn't offer enough money to Miranda's promoter or enough of an incentive to Miranda to get them to sign an options deal.

 

I know a lot how these contracts are made in boxing. Almost always a nonmandatory fight is given to a challenger only with options. (Quintana is a good example). This is done so the promoter can protect his title in case his fighter loses. Unless the challanger is a big name that can bring along more income (by bringing better TV money, etc) to the table than there is no incentive for the promoter to give his champion the tougher nonmandatory fight.

In Miranda's case, he has a decent name, but apparently he could not get HBO or SHO to give him the date and bring in the money for a fight with Bute. This is probably because Miranda, after the Pavlik loss, lost a decent amount of steam and HBO has little interest in Bute.

So, in a nutshell, there was no incentive for Bute's team to offer a fight to Miranda for any amount of money. They were better off getting an easier win for their man if Miranda's promoter was not giving up the options.

 

My ultimate wish/best case scenario list would be:

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  on on the Mosley v. Judah Las Vegas card
• 20th of September:
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  on the Mayweather v. de la Hoya card in Las Vegas
• mid December: the best of
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  in Montreal
• mid-late March 2009:
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  as the main attraction in Las Vegas
• early June 2009 fight:
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  in Montreal
• September:
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  winner in Montreal
• February 2010:
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  in Las Vegas
• May 2010:
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:tired :tired :tired :tired :tired - dream on! Yes, I know!

But that would be amazing!!!

 

well judging by the quality of his next opponent ... Hamdan would be a good bid

 

Hamdan would be too dangerous, I think, after he cleans the floor with Mundine...:!:

 

More Bute manlove from Maxime I see. There are other boxers in the world you know. All I hear from you is Bute this, Bute that. Get a life. Anyone would think you fancied the man.

Maxime wants to :tong :tong Bute

 

Bute is the most popular Candian fighter with the Canadian posters here on ESB, bar none. He is also more popular with non-Canadians. Even objective, good, experienced posters like sean like Bute a lot. Bute is a player at 168 but it's hard to match-make for him with all that's going on at the moment with everyone scrambling for Calzaghe's dropped belts, so it makes sense to "plan" ahead.

Why don't you get off Maxime's dick and post something useful?

 

guys a title holder and he should've sucked it up and foght kessler if he was available. he's 27 and already fought top 10 guys like bika, his avoiding of kessler (assuming the fight could be made) shouldn't be condoned. joppy's a non credible opponent at 168 at this stage in his career - period.

 

He ain't good enough to have a decent chance against Kessler. Said so himself after the Calzaghe v. Kessler fight. So what would have been the point of fighting him? To prove it to the whole world? Him and his trainer think he can improve enough this year to have a good shot against Kessler, so they're taking their time.

Yes! Joppy fight is a DISGRACE! Joppy is shot and not even in his prime was he one of the best, yes. But, please suggest someone better Bute could have fought in his first gimme defence, except Kessler, whom Bute is ducking for now.

Hit me with some name that was considerably better than Joppy and could possibly help Bute get fights against hyped Americans like Taylor in the future.

They could have picked some good journeyman or a shot former champ like Joppy, who is a name in the US. Whom would you have picked?

No, I am not happy with Joppy! I wanted someone much better. And if InterBox come up with another Joppy-like fellow in the next fight, I will be scandalised, whether they have an excuse or not.

 

i hear you and it makes sense business wise. i think they're being overly cautious IMO. Kessler's not prime Tyson, just a top smw in this current era. i guess bute's conceding he's ready to mix with the best of the current division (again kessler's not some certified ATG). sad he's a title holder. who's gonna watch the joppy fight in the us (where you say he has a name)? who's gonna give bute any respect for beating him at this stage -- probably few.

 

Kessler had a hand injured anyway and was not available.

 

You'd be surprised! American fans seems to value victories about NAME have-been Americans more than against live, hungry, unbeaten, dangerous contenders. This is why Joppy is preferable from a business point of view to a Bozic, Sartison or Mendy. Hopefully, Joppy will have enough left in the tank to give Bute something to think about and learn from for 6-8 rounds.

But Bute is certainly NOT overcautious in not stepping up against Kessler. If you think he is, you are badly underrating Kessler. Kessler is borderline elite, or A- and Bute is no better than very good, or B+. Big difference.

 

Kessler would have been available for a February fight against Bute, no problem! Kessler called Bute out, more or less, as early as last year; Bute passed. Kessler would have recovered from his hand injury and would have taken Bute on in Bute's back yard as early as end of February no problem, had he been given the chance. Kessler was desperate to fight Bute!

 

Kessler came back to the gym last week...

 

Because he could't make a fight for this spring, so he took a long break.

They're all ducking him! Bute, Mundine, Wright, Lacy...all of them.