Whats Not To Like About Paul Wiliams??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Sep 30, 2008.


  1. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Theres just one problem, Floyd beats these fighters mentally. If this fight happened, you'll be surprised when you see Floyd attacking Paul during the fight, this wouldn't be your average PW fight.
     
  2. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so floyd fights him inside?

    you act like paul cant fight inside....not only that but for all of the shots verno landed paul was landing like 2-3 more...

    there is no place in the ring that i feel floyd can take advantage of paul.... unless he gets paul out of rhythym.. which has only happened once
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Floyd beats them MENTALLY? :patsch Who has he ever beaten mentally?


    The more you post, the more your lack of knowldge and understanding really comes out dude. And I don't mean that to sound like in insult. But you DID tell me floyd could bob and weave to win in one post. As if he's EVER bobbed and weaved.

    And you say in the other thread Williams can beat Pavlik if he fights like Hopkins? As if he'd adopt any otherer tactic then the way he already fights? If fighting was as simple as adopting another fighters tactic, it would be done more.
     
  4. imp4pdabest

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    He's not a great inside fighter. When he was fighting Margo, when they got close & tangled up, Margo was getting the better of the exchanges. Paul doesn't have excellent footwork, his footwork is good for someone his size, but not excellent. Thats why when he &Margo tangled, he was kinda fallin all over the place, imagine what Floyd could do when they get inside.
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean he has a point with fighters like hatton he messed with his head and oscar as well.... but paul williams skill set is so much different than theirs
     
  6. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i dont think paul was trying to fight margarito like that anyways...

    game plan was to beat him from the outside which he was doing.. later rounds margarito was getting in paul ass and paul still prevailed.... against verno paul was looking fierce inside ... you think floyd is going to sit there and trade with paul? thats not even his style like that... plus paul has a chin to boot... so it wouldnt bode well for floyd to do that
     
  7. imp4pdabest

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    I said Margo is so slow he "could" bob & weave if he wanted to. I never said he actually does bob & weave. & if Floyd doesn't beat fighters mentally, then what did he do to Judah? Why did Oscar even admit Floyd always got under his skin?
    Second, fighters can adapt to other styles, Cotto adapted in his last fight, and he also adapted to the words "No Mas" at the end.:lol:
    If, and thats IF Williams can adapt to a Hopkins style, he definetly could win.
     
  8. Shane_Erich

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    Yet he already has....weird.
     
  9. imp4pdabest

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    Of course Margo was diggin him in the later rounds, but Margo wasn't smart, he was just fighting his style. If Floyd knows that PW's gameplan is to keep him at bay with the jab, you think Floyd is gonna just let that happen. Floyds gonna fight off the backfoot with PW chasing him, & the second PW blinks, PBF is gonna jump in and throw a 2-3 combo on PW, & its gonna be so fast PW isn't gonna catch that cause his reflexes aren't superb. So as soon as PW retaliates, PBF is outta there.
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

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    Yiou and the rest of the Floyd fanboy brigade greatly underestimate margarito's speed. Pretty pathetically as well. And you really think Floyd would adopt a technique he's NEVER DONE against a dangerous foe like Margarito?

    He beat Judah with his fists dude. What do you think he did, call him names? Getting under skin doesn't mean you beat them mentally. Margarito made Floyd stutter, did he beat him mentally?

    Your posts on Cotto show more of your zero boxing knowldge. And you seem to think any possibility is a legit possibility.

    Williams COULD win the pavlik fight with the first punch he lands. he COULD punch him so hard he flies up 20 feet into the air.

    try dealing in reality son....
     
  11. Jaaames

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    Carlos Quintana convinced me that Paul Williams is beatable from welter to middle... There's plenty of slick boxers and talented boxers out there from welter to middle....

    Sergio Gabriel Martinez
    Sergiy Dzindruk or however his name is spelled...
    Luis Collazo (depending on wat Berto does to him)
    Andre Berto
    Cory Spinks
    Vernon Forrest
    Ishe Smith (even tho he's on no ones radar)
    Felix Sturm

    He's shown that he is beatable... He has improved since the Quintana fight, hopefully he decides to drop the interim and go for the WBO belt... THEN, we can see how much he's improved.....
     
  12. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    thats the thing...

    paul could
    keep him at distance with jabs
    stalk him around (margo vs cotto)
    body him in the center of the ring
    beat up on him on the ropes

    paul could do any thing stylistically ... and he's fast enough, physical enough and has enough endurance for it to be realistic

    if you threw all these scenarios at me and you were talking about marg id be ok with it becuase hes not that fast or explosive....

    paul is fast and explosive.....
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

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    Messed with their heads? According to who? :huh

    Floyd would beat them two regardless if he said a word. Lets just not get carried away here with this "beats mentally" ok? Tyson beat guys mentally. Hopkins gets under skin.

    When Hatton laughs off floyd "tough talk" that doesn't tell me he's getting beaten mentally.
     
  14. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd in plenty of his recent fights has quickly found ways to adjust and eventually take over fights.....

    Paul CAN fight in the inside, it's just that Floyd is better at it and in that particular fight, more suited to do so and more than likely more effective....

    Tall guy pressure is tough to deal with so I do agree that Floyd will have plenty of trouble and will probably be surprised by how effective Paul can be from the inside... Also, Paul's defense isn't that tight.... And Floyd is a accurate puncher...
     
  15. walk with me

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    lol no i wouldnt say he "beat them mentally"

    but he got them agitated enough to maybe fight a bit more wreckless then usual... maybe they didnt even fight more wreckless than usual... but both of them were definitely a little agitated (more hatton than oscar)