what's really the "fuzz" about jmm if pac was his only claim for fame?

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  1. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ive been aching to post while I was at my ban moments by ESB. :fire Thankfully I was given another chance to share my love at this great sport specially to the pac fans and pac haters. So again, thank you ESB. :good

    Going back to my question... What is really the big fuzz about JMM besides having a draw from a 1 fisted pac after the first round?? :-(
    Lets discuss his resume:

    1. 1 eye cyclops rocky juarez. (UD) JMM couldnt ko the cyclops .
    2. Senior citizen MAB (UD) In fact, some say it was a robbery. Hmmm,
    and it was the old MAB putting JMM on his knees :huh
    3. Jimrex jaca -class C who gave JMM a lot of good leathers.
    4. Jandaeng- class c+ who gave jmm another good set of leathers.
    5. Chris John - defeated jmm... yeah yeah yeah pac haters say what you want but jmm lost that fight. He was in chris johns area, expect the worst in a close fight.
    6. Polo - who?
    7. Salido-who again
    8 Gainer -senior citizen
    9. Medina - another senior citizen


    and the only good name to his resume is a 1 fisted pac after the first round.. :huh
    dont get me wrong, I admire his counter punching style but thats basically it and pac in his resume.. Imagine if pac has that perfect left, it should be over already. Now getting off the topic, WOULD YOU just ask yourself for a moment if pacs injury was legit or not? theres no fighter in pacs resume that survived those kos. usually pac finished them all. hmm, it seems pacs excuses are true after all :yep
    so whats the hype if jmm got a gifted draw from pac?
     
  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Ask the haters buddy.

    :yep
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He was the one who made Juarez a one-eyed cyclops...

    Marquez doesn't have the resume of Barrera or Morales, but he is arguably the best fighter out of the 3. He is an all time great technician and counterpuncher. He can fight on the outside with the jab, right hand, and uppercuts. He can fight on the inside and dig to the body as well. He might be the best featherweight to come out of Mexico since Salvador Sanchez.

    And even though his resume isn't exactly amazing, he has quality wins and a win over an all time great (only idiots would claim Barrera was robbed). Marquez has held 3 different titles at 126 and the WBC at 130.

    That's his claim to fame in a nutshell
     
  4. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nobody discredit his counterpunching style and belts. but will you please explain the quality of wins over the alltime greats. are they on their prime? are they on the pound per pound rankings? do you think a prime jmm will easily whoop a prime mab and em? please enlighten us :deal
     
  5. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    So you say Barrera was robbed against JMM, but John beat Marquez? Agenda much?

    JMM doesn't have a great resume, but he is an excellent fighter. His fight with Pacquiao proved that, and Barrera.
     
  6. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    definitely I will :good
     
  7. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    Which ATGs did Pac beat in their prime? I'll pay Barrera, but who else? It goes both ways.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    No, a prime Juan Manuel Marquez would not whoop a prime Marco Antonio Barrera or a prime Erik Morales. But they would all be close/competitive fights.
     
  9. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didnt say old mab was robbed against jmm, but some people think that way. And please jmm lost to unknown chris john. expect a hometown decision in a close fight . You only think jmm won becsue you are one of his fan boys :nut

    his fight with pac? whats with that? a 1 fisted pac after the first round . :verysad thats nothing special and it was onlys jmm claim to fame :blurp mab is senior citizen and he decked jmm :deal
     
  10. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sasakul - lineal champ
    ledwaba - top 20 pond per pound
    em - on a decline but still on pound per pound

    and the matter of destruction is KO/TKO not ud :good
    now tell me how about jmm?
     
  11. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    for what, for exposing the truth? theres nothing wrong in my thread unless you are hurt in knowing the reality :oops:
     
  12. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    I'm one of his fanboys? :rofl :rofl :rofl :nut

    I don't like him much. I like Pac alot more.

    Barrera knocked him down off balance. He wasn't hurt.

    And whether you like it or not, JMM dominated after the first round.
     
  13. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    I said ATGs, which YOU brought up. Those guys are far from it (excluding Morales, who was past his best).

    And KO/TKO means very little. I guess non-KO artists like Pep are crap cos they won by decision. :lol: :patsch
     
  14. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yep he dominated... but shall i say to a 1 fisted pac after the first round? whats the glory about that if you are fighting someone who got only 1 hand? nothing special. still jmm got a gifted draw. now stick to the topic.. WHOS WHO IN JMMS RESUME that is giving him so much hype??
     
  15. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hope we avoid things that NEVER really happnened

    If the PRIME muhamad ali met the prime of XXX
    If the PRIME of casa met the prime of zzz
    If the PRIME of morales met the prime of yyy

    Fighters are not born on the same year so too bad the list of " IF THE PRIME of is ENDLESS!!!!

    Fast forward : APRIL 2008, assuming PACMAN won on a split decision

    A lot of JMM fans would say:

    if the fight was done on the prime of marquez 6 years ago. PACMAN would hav lost by KO!:patsch

    You see! this thing of "IF THE PRIME of " is NEVER ending and too bad IT NEVER HAPPENED AND NEVER WILL!!!! :hi: