What's stopping "old school" coaches from taking over boxing?

Yes. And I'm of the opinion that humans tend to refine and invent more than they forget concerning things they apply themselves to.

 

Some of us have been pondering this for years. I've long hoped that some of the classisist folks on this forum would band together, open up a gym, and use their superior understanding of "the lost arts of boxing" to put modern trainers and their fighters to shame.

 

More money and fewer people applying themselves and with less rigour? I don't see the connection.

I think Futch, Arcel et al certainly applied themselves with rigour, as well as those (Benton to Roach) coming after them.

 

There are not actual literally "lost" arts.
It is just that fighters from old eras refined their craft more so through experience and seasoning, through competition.

Some modern fighters are revered for using skills and techniques that were more commonplace among old-timers. That is all. It is not that some very secret esoteric knowledge has been lost, like some mythical ancient mystery .... just that the refined skill levels (ie. the application of skills and craft in high level competition)
that most top fighters displayed in the past are now much more rarely seen.

 

What does Silver know about coaches outside the US? Just because Americans are no longer the all-dominant force when it comes to producing world class boxers, doesn't mean that there no longer are great trainers.

Some years ago Golovkin was an exceptional fighter - as was Lomachenko. Today Usyk and (especially) Inoue look pretty good (at least to me). I know as little about their coaches as Silver does... but my guess is, that they probably know, what they are doing!

 

The pro marker burning out because more money was coming into it?

And the amateur scene was really coming to live in the post war period and the scene also widened from mostly being about the US with a lot of talent starting to come through from Latin America and later on Post-Soviet and Eastern Europe as well as Asia and, to some extent, Africa. More money, a widened amateur scene and more potential practitioners. So I don't see any withering of talent.

Not in theory and not on film. I'll leave it at that.

 

A lot of those guys become professional sparring partners.

 

You’ve got guys like Malik Scott who gave up his prime years to spar and Nate Tubbs who is pretty much unknown outside of beating Sanders bc he was on Tyson’s payroll.

If there were guys like that decades ago, I’d like to know who.

I also imagine there are jobs as personal trainers that weren’t around back then.