Whats the blueprint to beat these boxers?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Jul 19, 2011.


  1. GlassJawAnalyst

    GlassJawAnalyst Active Member Full Member

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    I was referring to the Super 6, all of his fight have been at home, whilst the other fighters have also fought away.
     
  2. GlassJawAnalyst

    GlassJawAnalyst Active Member Full Member

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    Home advantage has a significant impact on performance, this is fact.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Home advantage doesn't make you dominate fighters nor does it make the other fighter vastly inferior. It's an edge, not a means to victory. I'll repeat this again: Ward has dominated everybody he's faced. It wouldn't change because they're in Vegas. The margins are not small.
     
  4. wow_junky

    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    Ward is very well rounded but he will come undone against a superior boxer/athlete I think. To bad there aren't any around that have the balls and brains to do it.

    If Dirrell wasn't such a mentally weak tosser I'd give him the best chance at beating Ward. He's got better physical gifts than Ward IMO and has the ability to box him from the outside... if he doesn't cave in like a ***** if Ward can get inside and bully him.

    Seeing the way Dawson struggled with Pascal I think Ward would beat him handily. Dawson is a bit limited brain-wise.

    Martinez - Ward would be a great fight, not sure how that would go to be honest.

    Bute... is probably best left out of this. Too many unanswered questions, although he would be Ward's hardest fight to date (including Froch) IMO.
     
  5. wow_junky

    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    As for Donaire, I can't see anyone at bantam or lower beating him. Gamboa would be the first fighter I'd back as having a chance against him I guess.
     
  6. ScubaSteve

    ScubaSteve Dwylo o Garreg Full Member

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    It would take someone like Joe Calzaghe to beat Ward.

    Joe had fantastic footwork, great speed, amazing stamina and workrate. The Joe that went in against Kessler would be too much for Ward at this stage.

    I think the footwork is key to beat Ward, you need to be able to control distance to be able to get in, work and out before Ward can get his jab going.
     
  7. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Donaire is so offensively gifted that coming up with a truely viable way of beating him seems pretty impossible in my mind. If I thought I'd have one, I'd probably become a trainer myself.

    The only real criticisms you can make of him in my mind is that he occasionally has the tendency to get a bit sloppy in there when he is in cruise control in a fight but that should never form the basis of a tactical plan for a fight.

    His control of distance is wonderful so I'd propose a lot of circling on the back foot to force him to press the action; basically be extremely negative and hope that by making him lead off, you can counter either to head or body. And yes I realise his speed would still likely negate any advantages to that plan but it's the best I could come up with.

    As I say pretty impossible...
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Look at that left-hook. Thats the best left-hook in the sport easily. So short, fast, beautiful and followed up by the right hand. Picture perfect combination.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VVH2oGOBM[/ame]
     
  9. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Donaire's left hook is scary amazing technique the way he is able to gain the leverage rotating his body perfectly to get the power and speed its so compact you don't even see it coming.
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    It was the right hand that did the damage as well, the left-hook created the opening. Dynamite in both fists.
     
  11. daveyboy1609

    daveyboy1609 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Genuinely don't know what there isn't to like about Nonito. Excellent boxer, not afraid to fight anyone, intelligent bloke and nice guy out of the ring. Prob my fav boxer at the moment and deserves superstar status!
     
  12. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stunned with the first shot then follows up so quickly with the second you dont even know what has hit you literally.
     
  13. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    universal solution- hit and don't get hit end thread
     
  14. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    :lol::deal:deal:deal
     
  15. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Shame his career stalled for years.