What's the ceiling for Agit Kabayel?

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    People were making Fury hate threads for even thinking about fighting Agit. Fury knew Agit was legit but because he wasn't marketable why bother taking the extra risk for fans just to slate you saying a hungry decent opponent is a bum to the publics ignorant eye. Fury would box up Agit but i'd still have rather seen that than Chisora. You can't win in boxing people always want more.

    I'd like to know which promoter suckered Mukmudov's promoters into fighting Agit. Smart boys.

    This is where top dogs get afforded the opportunity to spar up and comers and keep check of the waters to make sure they don't accidently run into a shark. AJ knows Agit very well also.
     
  2. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Well. The only chance Agit has to get bigger fights, is to leave Germany. But he has mentioned it several times, he won't do that.

    So he will have to wait for another offers from big names or the Saudis
     
  3. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

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    Bump. Excited for his fight vs Zhang next weekend.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When Usyk retires he can be a titlist. He's decent at everything, and the hook to the body puts him over.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I think normal human ceilings are fine, he's only 6'3".
     
  6. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very good sir.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    People fear the Kurdish Slickness

    They ain't ready for a deep German Kurdish brother to grab ahold of the reins and dominate the sport's glamour division

    Granted he has to get past that big sexy Chinese man first and that ain't no easy feat given how that big sexy Chinese man can punch holes in castle walls and can shatter the sturdiest of mandible sections with a solitary bomb
     
  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kabayel gets hit too much. When you’ve got Dubois out there looking like a shark, I’m just not confident.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't recall seeing him get hit much in his last two fights and you're always a punch away from disaster when you face murderous punchers. Whether it be Dubois, Big Bang, The Dosser, or whichever other HW savage puncher, you're playing Russian roulette
     
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  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    And also considering that Kabayel isn't as proven as his hype might suggest, at least not yet.

    It's easy to forget, through all the noise, that Kabayel's best win is still a MD over Chisora in late 2017 (so a little over 7 years ago).

    Yes, he's looked impressive against a couple of hypejobs in Sanchez and Makhmudov (who themselves have pretty nothingburger resumes) but that's not what marks out real.


    And this is pretty much the point of the thread - we still don't really know where Kabayel's ceiling is... He might be a high level gatekeeper, he might be a fringe contender or he might be legit - he needs to make more good fights before we'll really know.

    The Zhang fight will either boost his credibility massively, or shatter it along with his mandible (because ain't no way Zhang wins on points).
     
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  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    In fairness, though, those were against overhyped bums.

    Makhmudov's best wins are all over ancient guys - ancient Sam Peter, ancient Takam and ancient Wach... He's barely even proven enough to be considered a gatekeeper.

    Sanchez best wins are no better - hypejob Ajagba, mediocre gatekeeper Hammer (fresh off the back of losing to Hughie Fury, and after he'd even lost to Yoka) and Fa who's so crap he couldn't even beat 40+ Lucas Browne.

    There's a lot of smoke and mirrors to Kabayel's hype - he looks good, but he ain't done that much.
     
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  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Well we know one thing Kabayel's Chin will absolutely be tested next weekend. Will he pass or fail? We will see.
     
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  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the Zhang fight will tell fight will tell us a little if be beats him cleanly I give him a 50/50 chance vs anyone bar Usyk.
     
  14. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

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    I think he could be a unified title holder in the post-Usyk era. But for all I know, he could get wrecked by Zhang and never be the same.
     
  15. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    So if he gets knocked out he'll never be the same again, and any future failures to prove himself will have been because of this?

    Because that's the real question - "never be the same" as what, exactly?
    What's he actually accomplished to date that makes his current overhyped status become the way he should be remembered?
     
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