What's the contervisty about Jack Dempsey/Gene Tunney 2 ?

Because the ref didnt hold Tunney down and let Dempsey stomp on him ofcourse

 

Maybe the fact that when Tunney knocked Dempsey down ,the referee Dave Barry didn't insist on Tunney going to a neutral corner?

 

Very good article from our very own ESB site:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news/DempseyvsTunney.php

 

:good :good :good totally agree! that fight smells very fishy, the refs were on genes payroll quite possibly. Fact Remains a rusted over the hill dempsey put tunney down for 14 seconds.

 

I agree with Suzie and Mcvey, the fight was a bit fishy, but Tunney was very much entitled to take as much time as he could to clear his head. He did nothing wrong, though the ref may have.

 

What was fishy is that the ref resumed his count after sending dempsey to a neutral corner instead of picking up the timekeepers count. I dont see a problem with him not sending Tunney to a neutral corner because the knockdown was less than a split second. He counted one and didnt have time to send anyone to a corner before Dempsey was up and fighting again. I dont think either KDs made a difference, dempsey got his ass handed to him and was on the verge of a KO when the fight ended. Had it gone another round or two he wouldnt have made it. One sided fight.

 

i think if this happenend today there would be big investigations and maybe even a reversal-or at leastthere should be plain in simple dempsey was robbed

 

Maybe if it was a close fight, but it wasn't.

 

What was the referee doing starting a count with Dempsey on the floor and Tunney still standing in front of him ,instead of in a neutral corner? Barry should have sent Tunney to a neutral corner before beginning the count.As it happened dempsey got his arse punched anyway he was gone as a world class fighter imo . His legs werent there, over 15 he would probably have been stopped,but bad refereeing all the same.Tunney allways said he could have gotten up before 10 ,and Dempsey grew to beleive him ,but Tunney said he could not be sure he would have weathered Dempsey's follow up assault.Strangely enough it was Dempsey's camp that emphasised the neutral corner rule must be obeyed,as you know it was worded very ambigously ,and at the referees discretion how it was implimented ,this fight changed that and "may be" was changed to "will be"in th erules.

 

It doesnt matter when the referee starts the count because there is an official timekeeper who continues the count whether the ref stops counting at four and picks it up at nine. Thats why what barry did was controversial, he had his own count, not the actual ten second count of the timekeeper. He could start counting on Dempsey's knockdown and if Tunney hadnt gone to a neutral corner he could stop and send Tunney there and then pick up the count. I see nothing wrong with the handling of the Dempsey knockdown because it was so fast it didnt have a chance to develop into a controversy.

 

But he didnt wait for Tunney to go to a neutral corner like he did with Dempsey.

When Dempsey hit the deck he said "one".

Without making any judgment as to how the refs decisions influenced the outcome it was definitely not fair.