Whats the deciding factor for you guys when placing Hopkins and Jones?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bxrfan, Jul 14, 2011.


  1. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    For me, I look at Bernard's longevity in the game and that's the deciding factor for me. I mean the dude has been at the top of the rankings for about twenty years now, since George H.W. Bush was in office! Roy was no doubt the more skilled and talented of the two, but once Roy's athleticism left him he was washed up. Hopkins continues to defy age thanks to his unreliability on athleticism and more due to hard work and talent. Even still though, it's incredible that he's on top of the world at 46.

    Jones was the more dominant champion when both were at their peak, but Hopkins has been at the top longer. It's close, but that's why I give hopkins the slight edge.

    As for resumes....

    Hopkins: John David Jackson, Glen Johnson, Simon Brown, Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright, Kelly Pavlik, Roy Jones, Jean Pascal

    Jones: Jorge Castro, Bernard Hopkins, Thulani Maligna, James Toney, Vinny Pazienza, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin, Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, Clinton Woods, John Ruiz, Antonio Tarver, Felix Trinidad, Jeff Lacy
     
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  2. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    depends which day you ask me on. But tell you this: on days when I see a prime Roy doing his thing (like this)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAlNk0ATOOw[/ame]

    I can't help but put him ahead of Hopkins. You speak about longevity, but keep in mind Roy was pretty much THE MAN p4p after his fight with toney in 94 (and by that point had already nabbed huge wins over guys like Hopkins and Malinga), so that means he was dominant for almost 10 years. And I mean dominant. He was so far ahead of the rest of the class it wasn't funny. Hopkins' run hasn't really been all that much longer than Roy's was, it's just that it came later in his career, while Jones' was earlier.
     
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  3. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with the above post. Jones was dominant till he was 35, which is old for a fighter that has boxed as long as Roy had.Then he got kod and everything since has been pretty much irrelevant to his greatness, but for over 10 years he was arguably the best fighter on the planet. Roy said himself "I was great early, he (Bernard) was great late"
     
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