What's the hardest style to overcome overall?

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  1. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    In your opinion, what is the hardest style to deal with regardless of your own?

    We know that styles make fights, but beyond that, if you had to choose which style causes the most problems for the most styles, which one would that be?

    Swarmer, slugger, brawler, boxer, mover, inside fighter, outside fighter, boxer-puncher, counterer, puncher, unorthodox (not as in southpaw), volume puncher, other?...

    State why it's the most troublesome for the most styles. Give examples.
     
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  2. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think a boxer-puncher is bad news.

    Take a guy that is well rounded and with a good grasp of all facets of the game, including defence, and give him a grenade of a punch.

    Examples are Golovkin, Hagler, Canelo, Wlad Klitschko, Kovalev, Hearns.

    It's troublesome for obvious reasons. Not only is a good boxer hard to beat at the best of times, but now he has bombs that you have to worry about as well. They have the option of adapting to what you do by pressing the nuclear button. Eg: Wlad vs Pulev, Hagler vs Hearns etc.
     
  3. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You could probably include Corrie Sanders in that list too. He was really quite a good boxer in his younger days, and as he got older and slower he seemed to come to the realisation that if he knocked them out early, he could play golf sooner ...
     
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  4. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" Full Member

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    Interesting question.

    I guess whatever Roy jones junior was doing in the 90s. The fighters I think of as most dominant and seemingly impossible to beat usually could be described as unorthodox, relying on supreme physical ability to do things most boxers cant do and therefore their opponent hasn't trained for.

    Ignoring those special cases, then to me the hardest style to beat is a defensively sound pressure counter puncher like james Toney, money may, and lw duran.
     
  5. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    I think many are going to pick this one and I'm personally not convinced it is the one. I'll come back to it later...
     
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  6. William Walker

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    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Boxer-puncher, Ezzard Charles style.
     
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  8. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    The fact that he never really used his jab as a weapon makes me tentative to call him a boxer puncher. His jab was a range finder and a distraction from his big left more than anything else.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    That's a fair criticism. He did in some fights though and it shows what might have been. Against Mike Dixon he rattled off 6-8 jabs in a row, just beautifully.
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Swarmer. Absolutely awful to fight a swarmer. Murderous for anyone that can't just blast them out.
     
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  11. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    :naughty2:
     
  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In our family we call them ADAs (Adaptable fighters). These are guys who can, at times, Box, Slug, or Swarm. I realize the style's not accepted as even existing by most, but I really believe I've seen it in some fighters. I think Evander Holyfield managed it, at times, not early Holyfield, but as he matured as a fighter. More recently, I believe Sebastian Fundora could mature into an ADA. And I have seen others who almost fit that style at various times in their careers. I think Dempsey attempted it but never quite got there.
     
  13. Trevor Diamante

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    I think it depends on the competitiveness and makeup of the division at the time. I think all things being sound it's a pure boxer/counterpuncher who has pop/power, and a strong chinned technical pressure fighter.
     
  14. Showstopper97

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    A boxer-punching, counterpuncher with a good chin, defense & power (i.e Robinson, Charles, M Spinks).
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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